00:03:12 Martina Schildt: Hi all, agenda for today's Meeting: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ERMSIG/pages/1388086174/2025-12-10+ERM+SIG+meeting 00:11:58 Felix Hemme: Could you extend the UAT over Christmas? 00:12:11 Felix Hemme: I know you've spend much time writing the test cases! 00:12:33 Felix Hemme: End of year is a busy time πŸ˜” 00:14:26 Felix Hemme: I'll see what I can do till the end of this week. Friday is my meeting-free work day. 00:14:32 Owen Stephens: Reacted to "I'll see what I can ..." with ❀️ 00:19:45 scolglaz: You could have AGLs for those EBA Titles that become Perpetual 00:19:48 Felix Hemme: I think in Heiko's scenario I'd work with 2 agreements, one during the running phase of the EBA and the other one for recording the acquired titles. But it's easy for me to say that, given at ZBW we have canceled our EBA stuff. 00:20:32 scolglaz: So I would do it differently from Felix. Same Agreement, but 00:20:41 Felix Hemme: Reacted to "So I would do it dif..." with πŸ‘ 00:20:56 Margaret Youngberg: Replying to "So I would do it dif..." This is also what I would do (am currently doing!) with a custom package in HLM 00:21:00 Martina Schildt: Reacted to "I'll see what I can ..." with πŸ™ 00:23:05 Felix Hemme: The reason why I'd go with different agreements is that I want to know that the linked license is always representing the valid terms during acquiring the single titles. Maybe we would end up with n AGR over time for the single e-resources. But that depends on the licensing details of the vendor. 00:24:00 Margaret Youngberg: Replying to "The reason why I'd g..." Can you make a distinction with multiple licenses attached to one agreement? One is current, one is historical? 00:25:10 Felix Hemme: Replying to "The reason why I'd g..." You can have one current license, but what if this new license only applies to the large EBA catalog, not the titles that you've acquired 5 years ago? 00:25:29 Felix Hemme: Replying to "The reason why I'd g..." You can't have a license on AGRLine level. 00:31:39 Becca Banach (Smith College): At Smith we’d create a separate agreement for the EBA itself and for the perpetual titles and then link them and then mark them accordingly (perpetual/non). 00:31:47 Becca Banach (Smith College): So basically what Sara is saying! 00:32:08 Felix Hemme: Reacted to "At Smith we’d create..." with πŸ‘€ 00:33:18 Heiko Schorde: Reacted to "At Smith we’d create..." with πŸ‘ 00:36:06 Felix Hemme: 'Basis' would work as well for me. 00:38:23 Heiko Schorde: like this ownership and access model terms 00:38:29 Owen Stephens: Reacted to "like this ownership ..." with πŸ‘Œ 00:38:59 Margaret Youngberg: (Once again I have to leave early -- my midwife appts keep getting scheduled for ERM SIG Wednesdays. Nice to chat with you all.) 00:39:10 Martina Schildt: Reacted to "(Once again I have t..." with πŸ‘‹ 00:39:17 Heiko Schorde: Reacted to "(Once again I have t..." with πŸ‘‹ 00:39:24 Becca Banach (Smith College): Reacted to "(Once again I have t..." with πŸ‘‹ 00:39:46 Philip Adams: I would want to record the access model to help with troubleshooting when things go wrong. 00:39:58 scolglaz: Reacted to "I would want to reco..." with πŸ‘ 00:39:58 Becca Banach (Smith College): Reacted to "I would want to reco..." with πŸ‘ 00:40:36 Owen Stephens: Reacted to "I would want to reco..." with πŸ‘ 00:40:47 Becca Banach (Smith College): I agree with Philip, and it also helps us audit our metadata and ensure everything is tracked over time (if there is migration or staff turnover for example) 00:40:50 Philip Adams: I think I am committed to buying something as a result of starting an EBA. So it could be perpetual Access Agreement with zero titles during the information Phase. 00:41:14 scolglaz: Reacted to "I agree with Philip,..." with πŸ‘ 00:41:20 scolglaz: Reacted to "I think I am committ..." with πŸ‘ 00:42:04 Heiko Schorde: Reacted to "I think I am committ..." with πŸ‘ 00:56:39 scolglaz: A difference from the beginning 00:58:58 Felix Hemme: We distinguish between archiving and, if applicable, subsequent hosting in the trigger event and perpetual access. 00:59:36 Philip Adams: We are members of the Global LOCKSS Alliance and so have perpetual access to some subscribed content, but this would not fit under the current list of perpetual access mechanisms. How about Digital Preservation (DP)? 01:01:40 scolglaz: & Portico 01:04:53 Becca Banach (Smith College): And vendors are always trying to find new ways to sell things to us! (β€˜Enhanced’ content, etc) 01:05:04 Martina Schildt: Reacted to "And vendors are alwa..." with πŸ‘ 01:05:13 Philip Adams: Reacted to "And vendors are alwa..." with πŸ‘ 01:05:26 Heiko Schorde: Reacted to "And vendors are alwa..." with πŸ‘ 01:06:37 Philip Adams: They are different: I might want to log my EBA purchases as being backed up by my Digital Preservation system.