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Kalli Mathios: Hello!

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Andreas Mace: Hello, everyone.

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Kalli Mathios: Nice to see you, Andreas, how are you?

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Andreas Mace: I'm good, thanks, how are you?

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Kalli Mathios: Good, good.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah, it's a long time ago since I was able to take part in any of these meetings, so that's…

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Kalli Mathios: I know. That's good. You must be busy.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: I've been imagining it's the implementation, but maybe it's something else.

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Andreas Mace: No, it's… it very much is. Even though we postponed it till September, it's still a lot.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah. And working with, linked data integration very much currently, so that's… That's fun, but…

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Andreas Mace: new territories.

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Kalli Mathios: Oh, we'll be excited to hear how it all goes.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: Hi, Tamika. Hi, Laura.

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Andreas Mace: Alright, dear.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah, I'm trying to read… read up on the previous agendas, which I haven't…

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Kalli Mathios: I haven't missed.

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Andreas Mace: So close, Led.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, we've been… we had a slow start in the new year. We didn't meet in January at all.

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Kalli Mathios: Which I think is okay. There's just always so much going on.

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Kalli Mathios: And then Nancy and I were still getting used to the cadence of the meetings and the scheduling and all that good stuff.

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Andreas Mace: Yep.

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Kalli Mathios: So, today… Nancy is on vacation, so she won't be joining us today.

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Kalli Mathios: But we were able to get together a quick draft to edit, and I saw there are comments. I haven't looked at anything yet, so it'll be great to look at it together. Some updates, though, before we dive in to WolfCom planning, is that I heard from the Discovery SIG this morning.

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Kalli Mathios: West Coast time. I think those folks might be on U.S. East Coast time, but they cannot meet,

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Kalli Mathios: April 10th, but they can meet on the 21st, so I've bumped that a week.

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Kalli Mathios: I've added my name to take notes during that session as best I can. And thanks, Charlotte, for signing up to take notes today. And…

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Kalli Mathios: Just as a reminder, we were hoping to…

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Kalli Mathios: Structure note-taking a little bit more, for our,

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Kalli Mathios: two times a month meetings, so if you're willing and able to sign up to take notes, that would be really helpful, and if not, that's okay. There are recordings of these meetings, and if

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Kalli Mathios: I ever need to, on occasion, I have gone back and revisited the recording to get info I needed, but

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Kalli Mathios: If you're able to take notes, please sign up, and I'll add my name to a few more.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: So maybe if we have time after the WolfCom planning, we can talk a little bit about the Discovery SIG, and what we might want to talk about with them, and just think… we have more time now, which is great, but that was just another thing I wanted to touch base on, and I wanted to check in on…

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Kalli Mathios: This doc, so really, our primary focus for the last month or so has been on two… two spreadsheets, or tables. This first one, the Folio LODSIG primary URI, so we had,

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Kalli Mathios: seen this wonderful demo, and now we actually have it at Stanford in our stage environment, the Instant Source URI field.

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Kalli Mathios: And…

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Kalli Mathios: very excited about it, yeah, super psyched, able to see BlueCore and Synopia data being populated in Folio, and the URI being in a logical, useful place.

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Kalli Mathios: So exciting. And then right around the time that that was demoed, we started having questions about if we wanted more URIs in inventory or not.

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Kalli Mathios: So priorities are always shifting in the linked data landscape, so this was started a while ago, and since then, Cornell has decided this is not as high of a priority as it used to be, and

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Kalli Mathios: And Laura, I just kind of typed notes based on our last call, but if there's a better way to phrase this, please feel free to edit it directly.

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Laura Daniels: I will do that.

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Kalli Mathios: Thank you. Because I was like, well, I'm just writing down how I have it in my head, and that doesn't mean it's…

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Kalli Mathios: Right? Or the best worded. And then a few institutions went in, and organizations, and listed what their priorities were or were not. So if this is important to you, if you could fill it out, and if it isn't, if you could list your name under not interested, or it's not

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Kalli Mathios: top of mind right now, that would also be helpful, so that we know kind of where this sits on the urgency scale, or what might need more discussion later on.

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Kalli Mathios: Did I leave anything out?

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Kalli Mathios: Questions?

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Andreas Mace: Just a comment that I had missed this one, and it's a priority for us, and I'll be sure to add our

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Andreas Mace: Pretations in the spreadsheet as soon as possible.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, that's great.

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Andreas Mace: about this today? Like, why isn't this linked in inventory? That would be great if this was linked, anyhow.

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Andreas Mace: Okay.

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Laura Daniels: Would it be overkill to ask

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Laura Daniels: for, people to share use cases. Maybe not in this document, because we… But,

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Laura Daniels: That would help us think about… I mean, currently we don't have use cases, but maybe we're missing something.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, I think that's a great idea.

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Laura Daniels: We can go through this stage, and then…

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Kalli Mathios: Make a complimentary, or further down on this document, start a use cases section.

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Laura Daniels: Yeah, and I'm not… I don't want people to spend a whole lot of time with details, just sort of the general, like, this is why… this is why we want them, or this is how we envision them being useful.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, I can see a new table that's just each institution that's listed priorities, and then column use case.

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Kalli Mathios: And we can even do bullets, like, you know.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, that'd be great.

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Kalli Mathios: Great, that's really helpful to know, Andreas, thanks. Okay, so there's this one, and then we also have…

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Kalli Mathios: The settings page requirements, So this is for,

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Kalli Mathios: Jira issues UX Prod 5665, 5668. I think it also relates to…

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Kalli Mathios: I'm going off of memory. 52, 27, and 28?

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Kalli Mathios: Charlotte wrote them, check me. But these…

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Charlotte Whitt: Sure, I think it's only the first two you mentioned, 55.

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Kalli Mathios: Listed here at the top.

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Charlotte Whitt: Yeah, yeah. Okay.

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Kalli Mathios: Cool. Thank you. So… These are for helping configure

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Kalli Mathios: mock-ups for… and… and planning work around editor settings. Charlotte, do you want to say anything more about… you will do a better job explaining than I will.

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Charlotte Whitt: So it is for implementing the functionality, and then Alvaro, promised that he would do the UX mock-ups, so…

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Charlotte Whitt: these UX markups are to illustrate what is the result we are to implement. So, when…

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Charlotte Whitt: He needs to update these UX markups a little bit, still missing some details, and when they are ready, then we can write up the Euro tickets for doing the work.

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Charlotte Whitt: And, yeah, hopefully the citation team can do it, but it sounded on Elvaro, that it's not gonna be for Trillium, but then maybe can be, later in as a Trillium service patch.

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Charlotte Whitt: So, it's still… So, but we… we need to have, yeah,

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Charlotte Whitt: the ticket's written up. Okay. Yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: Great, that's great. We won't be on Trillium for a bit, I don't think.

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Kalli Mathios: Jeremy is here. Maybe Jeremy can clarify. But that's helpful, so it doesn't feel like a delay for us, I would say. It's… that sounds great.

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Kalli Mathios: So, we have added screen dumps for… so, the current prototype for BlueCore.

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Kalli Mathios: I'm still seeing… okay, so we need them from Libris, JCricket, I don't know…

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Kalli Mathios: And I did Synopia, and we don't have… Marva… Elsie Marva.

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Kalli Mathios: So I would just say, if you're able to add those.

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Kalli Mathios: And I don't see Tiziana yet, so maybe I can help remind people. What are these screen dumps being used for again?

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Charlotte Whitt: So it is to illustrate where is, then, if you click that button, where are you landing?

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Kalli Mathios: Oh, it's…

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Charlotte Whitt: It's very… practical. Okay.

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Charlotte Whitt: Who from, library of Congress, should we try to ping?

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Charlotte Whitt: I can ping Nate directly.

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Laura Daniels: Nate is who comes to mind for me, I think he's…

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Charlotte Whitt: Okay, okay, yeah.

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Laura Daniels: active and folio.

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Charlotte Whitt: Okay.

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Charlotte Whitt: let me see if I can write an email and explain for him, and then see if we can get that input from

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Charlotte Whitt: The Mava editor.

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Kalli Mathios: That would be great.

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Charlotte Whitt: Okay, okay. We can put it as an action item, and then… Okay.

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Charlotte Whitt: I'll see what I can do.

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Kalli Mathios: Tamika asks, will… we will be on Sunflower this summer, starting the Link Data Editor and exploring functions. Anything we should be aware of, or that can be of use that I can bring to the group?

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Charlotte Whitt: So…

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Kalli Mathios: Tamika, do you mean the linked data app in folio?

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Tomeka Jackson: Yes.

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Tomeka Jackson: Yes, we're… we're starting the LinkedIn editor in Folio.

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Tomeka Jackson: And I guess, just, is there anything…

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Tomeka Jackson: you guys would want to know. I know everybody's on different iterations.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, that would be great. Laura's suggesting maybe speaking with Alvaro a little bit, but I think…

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Tomeka Jackson: Okay.

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Kalli Mathios: If you would love to share your experience using it with our group, that would be awesome. Okay. Just let me know when, and I will put you on the calendar.

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Tomeka Jackson: That's great.

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Tomeka Jackson: Okay, thank you.

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Kalli Mathios: That would be great. Yeah. I would want to know everything you think about it. I don't know what others think.

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Tomeka Jackson: Okay.

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Charlotte Whitt: Quick question. As I have understood it, then the link data editor is also being launched with Trillium.

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Charlotte Whitt: So it's not even in Sunflower, but I can, you know… but I know the citation team has done so many UXProd features for the Trillium release, so if you go in and…

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Charlotte Whitt: And it's… right now, it's not in full snapshot, it's not in any of the usual reference environments.

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Charlotte Whitt: But Andreas, you have tested as well, so maybe you know better.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah, I think there's a beta version in Sunflower, so I think… I don't know how much of the news

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Andreas Mace: work they've done for Trillium that they may have backported, I have no idea.

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Andreas Mace: We haven't… I haven't,

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Andreas Mace: I haven't looked at that for quite a long time, since we decided not to use it.

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Andreas Mace: So I'm not really keeping track of the progress, but it's something for Albaro.

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Andreas Mace: I think.

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Tomeka Jackson: Oh, so is it… so is beta in Sunflower? Or that just depends on if you turn it on.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah, you need to…

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Tomeka Jackson: Okay.

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Andreas Mace: Actually, have it enabled.

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Tomeka Jackson: Okay, I made sure they do that.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, that sounds good, and I guess then it just sounds like to keep in mind that the functionality for later releases might be different.

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Kalli Mathios: like all folio apps, really, but if…

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Kalli Mathios: you look at this calendar, Tamika, and you want to start just brainstorming a date of when you might want to, the dates for all of our meetings throughout the year.

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Kalli Mathios: Hopefully they're all correct.

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Kalli Mathios: Are there, and you can pick one, and…

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Kalli Mathios: we'll… we'll add you in. And no rush, I mean, whenever, but that would be great. I would… I would love to. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for offering.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, great. So, I'll… I'll try to ping to Isiana, and we'll talk to Nate.

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Kalli Mathios: at LC… And Andreas will help with Libras, and then I think we're good.

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Kalli Mathios: Yay!

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Kalli Mathios: This is very exciting work. I'm very excited about this.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, so, moving on. Any other housekeeping before we do that? Questions?

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Kalli Mathios: Updates?

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Kalli Mathios: Hi, Jen, I saw you joined us.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, so let's get into the draft. Nancy sent me… A wonderful outline.

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Kalli Mathios: Towards the end of the day, yes… well, actually, she sent it to me earlier in the day.

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Kalli Mathios: And then I kind of took her bullets and came up with a very simple And rather short proposal.

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Kalli Mathios: And I haven't looked at any comments, so,

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Kalli Mathios: Is… is this rewrite from Tiziana?

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Kalli Mathios: Or did someone else… do this writing.

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Laura Daniels: It looks like it might be something Tiziana did using AI.

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Kalli Mathios: Cool. Okay, so maybe we can take a minute and just read it together. I will drop a link to this in the chat.

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Kalli Mathios: Everyone should have the ability to view and edit it, but if you don't, please let me know.

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Andreas Mace: Interesting bullet with tensions between graph-based editing environments and record-based systems. Sounds like something pulled out of its hat.

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Charlotte Whitt: Yep.

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Andreas Mace: Typical.

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Charlotte Whitt: We should look at your proposal first.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: There's always…

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Charlotte Whitt: Look at this.

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Andreas Mace: Some of the bullets were interesting, but no.

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Kalli Mathios: I… I… it's so well… IA is so, in English, so well spoken. I, like, when I… just by its use of grammar.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, so long story short, the last time we met, we had talked about, doing a hybrid panel. So we would…

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Kalli Mathios: talk about the work that we've done over the year. Essentially.

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Kalli Mathios: Nancy and I's thinking was the last few years we've done pre-conference workshops, which were really helpful.

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Kalli Mathios: But we kind of thought we might try something different this year, which would be to… a more outward-facing participation. So, you know, we know… even though all of us are working at a clip, and it's hard to keep up with everyone, I think generally we…

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Kalli Mathios: this… the conference is a good opportunity to give updates, but also maybe taking our work and sharing it with the wider folio community, and making them aware of the work we're doing, and maybe inviting some more collaboration, so…

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Kalli Mathios: We were going to start by…

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Kalli Mathios: Explaining the makeup of our group. So I tried to say, you know, we have a wide range of organizations and practitioners and use cases, so sort of,

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Kalli Mathios: hinting at Tiziana's, where we have multiple editors, multiple groups, multiple stakeholders and interests.

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Kalli Mathios: It's not as if we're only one type of linked data implementation.

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Kalli Mathios: And as part of our work, we brainstorm, we collaborate, we work towards developing things, we implement things, we highlight and rally around our converging needs, and I… and that's one of the things that I really love about this group.

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Kalli Mathios: My participation in other Folio 6 is not as consistent as this one, but what I notice is that

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Kalli Mathios: we all seem to have this really great ability to find out what we have in common and then act on it, which is so cool. Like, there isn't so much variety that it's…

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Kalli Mathios: difficult to come to consensus, and the things that we need, we're going to use them in different ways, but we do need some core infrastructure, which is really cool. And that's not to say other groups aren't good at that either, it's just, I feel like we are especially fast at coming to those agreements, which is really…

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Kalli Mathios: a breath of fresh air, in a lot of ways.

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Kalli Mathios: And then, so after going over, kind of, who we are and what we've done over the last year, we would transition to a panel.

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Kalli Mathios: And then I tried to say, you know, we would give context for our work, describe it, talk about the new instant source URI. I don't know if you all have had feedback at your institutions about it. Those who catalog and mark primarily at Stanford had some feedback for it that I was…

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Kalli Mathios: like, not really anticipating that it would, like, jump out at people, or interfere with certain macros people had running in Folio. But it did, and we talked about it, and it was fine, but,

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Kalli Mathios: taken, like, all of the thoughts of the day and summarized them for us as a SIG, kind of looking at the conference as a whole and saying, I see how this ties into our work. Maybe discovery is a natural place for us to go, but maybe there are other places, like Inventory or MMSIG.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, beyond open data. We can get preachy about that, maybe. That's the only thing I can think of. Laura?

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Laura Daniels: Okay. Because that allows us to refine at the last minute and focus on whatever is really going to be the most relevant and useful at the time. But I think this gives people a good idea of what they could expect if they came to this session.

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Kalli Mathios: Hi, Tiziana, sorry about the time confusion and everything, and thank you for adding these notes. We were just going through everything.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, no, it's okay. I had a meeting this morning with many of the members are in Europe, and it was an hour later than it typically is for me, and I was like, oh, this is so nice, I can sleep an extra hour, and I didn't think about it for this meeting, so I'm sorry.

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Kalli Mathios: or anything that should be reworded, and I am terrible at titles. I really appreciate the title from the AI. Sometimes I notice, though, that if everyone uses AI for their titles, the titles start looking the same, so I have become a little bit cautious about it, but…

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Laura Daniels: Despite different approaches… commonality? I don't know. It is… like, to me, that's part of the ethos of Folio when Folio's working well as a community.

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Kalli Mathios: It's almost like I want to say, Editors, community pathways, And… implementation progress.

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Kalli Mathios: listing themselves as a panelist, or a co-presenter. I can submit it. I am… I put in my request to attend WolfCon in person. I have not been approved yet.

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Kalli Mathios: But it's likely that I'll go to WolfCon, and Nancy may not, but she may go to WolfCon.

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Charlotte Whitt: And I think, Kelly, it's all fine if you list yourself as… so, you submit, and you list yourself as the main presenter, even that you have not gotten that final approval.

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Kalli Mathios: May I add your name, Charlotte, or would you rather not be on the panel, or presenter?

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Laura Daniels: To co-facilitate, if that's helpful.

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Kalli Mathios: That would be super helpful. LD4 conference taught me so much. I thought, initially, when I chaired that conference, oh, we don't need a… we had 3 people facilitating every session, and I was like, that's so many people, but you have one person on the chat, one person on the Slack, one person talking, it makes a world of a difference. It's so helpful.

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Laura Daniels: not… I won't even say well, but passively, is to have people really dedicated to facilitating the interaction between those who are remote and those who are in person.

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Charlotte Whitt: Now, Alvaro is not here today, but we maybe should just check in with him if he… what his interest is.

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Jeremy Nelson: I think I'm gonna be at Wolfcon Valley, so you could add me as presenter. I don't really want to facilitate.

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Kalli Mathios: Great!

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Kalli Mathios: Going and willing to do it, but I will double check, because you just.

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Kalli Mathios: Never want to add someone's name. Oh, great!

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Kalli Mathios: Do I have a window? I have so many windows open, I'm just seeing if there's a chance I already have it up.

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Kalli Mathios: Around 2026.

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Laura Daniels: It's the first, yeah, it's the first week in September. So the pre-conference workshops are on August 31st, and then the conference itself is the first, I think the 1st through the 3rd?

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Laura Daniels: Not at all.

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Kalli Mathios: They are on Monday… yeah, the pre-conference workshops are in person only, and on Monday, August 31st.

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Kalli Mathios: the form is also really great. I love the software they're using. I don't remember last year if it was the same or not, but I particularly love this year's submission form. I don't know whoever I should tell that to. It's so good, it's so easy. But I think I'm selecting this in-person, hybrid.

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Kalli Mathios: Would you all agree? I think this is… because we don't want presenters virtual full, and we don't want short session, and we don't want a pre-conference workshop.

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Kalli Mathios: But we talked about it leading up to the conference, and really figured out who was going to do what, and it was very cohesive, and I think they were really nice sessions, so there'll be support along the way. We won't just…

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Kalli Mathios: Who wants to talk about what? What kind of questions we want to ask each other, so everyone can prepare and feel

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, so I'll try to do this this week.

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Kalli Mathios: And I… I got halfway through the submission, and I thought, I'll see if it saves what I do and lets me come back later. And it is, and it's emailing me. Remember your submission? So, it's a really great process. I need those reminders, and I'm glad it saved what I did, which was just enter my name, basically.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, I thought this was so great, and it… and in slide format is also really nice, because it's, like, visual, and you don't have to feel like you're reading an essay.

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Kalli Mathios: The fact that anyone tells you what they're looking for is helpful, but this format I found particularly digestible.

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Kalli Mathios: So, with the remaining time, perhaps we can talk a little bit about the Discovery SIG meeting. So…

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Kalli Mathios: The 21st will be a Tuesday.

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Kalli Mathios: So it will be this time, next month, on the 21st, April.

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Kalli Mathios: the initial ask to the group. Okay, so let me open up my Slack and see if I can find the message.

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Kalli Mathios: It was in our main channel initially, and then they…

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Kalli Mathios: Ked just slide messaged me, or slide messaged me. So, Nicole Trujillo from…

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Kalli Mathios: The Discovery SIG writes, EBSCO has been testing out some linked data elements in Discovery, like author pages and sites cited by.

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Kalli Mathios: We are reaching out to them to see if they would like to discuss these features in further detail, and we'll let you know what we hear. We were also wondering if the Link Data SIG is interested in having a discussion sometime this summer, so we're meeting a little sooner than that, I guess, depending on where you are, about the development of the LinkData app in Folio, and the various ways it might impact user resource discovery.

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Kalli Mathios: We're just talking about the Discovery SIG, that wants to meet with us on April 21st. The date has changed, and so I was just reading what Nicole had written to us.

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Kalli Mathios: Nicole is at the University of Colorado Boulder, which I believe our former co-convener, Chris Long, was there, right?

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, what do you all think? Had you heard about this? I hadn't heard about this. The author cards?

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Laura Daniels: Did she say what environment that was? Was that EDS? Is that locate? Is that…

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Laura Daniels: Because my first thought, honestly, was, well, that's similar to something that we do at Cornell and Blacklight.

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Laura Daniels: You know, I should… I should know if it's… we actually use EDS for our e-resources.

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Laura Daniels: We use Blacklight for our… our catalog data, but we have EDS implemented, so I should be able to look at our EDS and see if that's the…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: It's not my area, but I know they use a knowledge graph, and they have, information about authors.

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Kalli Mathios: Because a question I had… I did hear about this, and one question I had about this, it didn't seem like people could edit

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Kalli Mathios: I was confused if this was a product or not. Like, is this something you would subscribe to, and then the data would be used in those features, or is this something that libraries would have

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Kalli Mathios: The ability to edit

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Kalli Mathios: if there were issues, like, in the OpenAlex data, or the CrossRef data, or maybe EBSCO's doing cleaning.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: So…

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Kalli Mathios: topic, but…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't know how open is this. I'm not sure. I know it exists, but I never took the time to research on that. But,

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I will have to, too, because, we'll have… we'll start developing, authorities, authority edit capabilities starting on June. And, that's people.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: So… And yeah, that's… that's something I had, like…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: in my schedule, after, Trillium… is released.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: to, to check on that. Like, how we can, edit People from external sources.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't have an idea. And also, I think that,

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: This thing about, external, editors or external tools might be useful.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: But, that's, it's more like a feeling, you know, because I hadn't made the research.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: But, we… but we are going that way, at least, in the… with the editor.

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Kalli Mathios: Nope.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Because authorities are people.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, so it sounds like it could be… it could be many things. It could be the use of that authority data.

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Kalli Mathios: in folio, it could be the scholarly graph, so we need to ask her and confirm where. And my second question, Alvaro, is can you show us that in the future, in the near future? Maybe in, like, May?

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Kalli Mathios: the authorities?

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Kalli Mathios: for people.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Oh…

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Kalli Mathios: Like, data, can you show us that soon?

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Oh, I think that… we start actual development on June, so I…

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Kalli Mathios: Excuse me.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: we chose something in July.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, that would be great.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, whenever you're ready. I'm sorry, I misunderstood and thought it would be ready in June, but you're saying the.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Hold.

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Kalli Mathios: start in June.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: Awesome.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, we… we are just, we are starting… a starting plan.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Like, last week, we started.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay.

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Kalli Mathios: Are there issues we can follow?

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Kalli Mathios: I'm just very curious about it, because that's my primary role at Stanford. I'm authorities and entity management, so this.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I like it.

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Kalli Mathios: spot.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Holy.

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Kalli Mathios: If you have any JIRA issues, just as a personal, I would love to see them when you're ready, or when they come together.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, yeah.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I will make… I will ask you, yeah, for sure, because I'm sure we will bump into a lot of

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: issues. Yeah.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: And, also, I'm wondering…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't know also how to manage that, but that relates with external, like, ontologies, or…

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Kalli Mathios: Right.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: outside, different.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: So… Yeah, I still don't know also how to handle that.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah. But, yeah, I will, I will reach out to you. Totally.

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Kalli Mathios: I would love that. I've been thinking about these things, but I have known… I mean, I'm talking about it, but to know you're working on it is very helpful.

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Kalli Mathios: Because, yeah, MAD's RDF, For example, instead of…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: lame.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, yeah. Cool. Okay, so…

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Kalli Mathios: I don't know where that leaves us, so we have one question about where the actual cards are going.

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Kalli Mathios: Like, what… what the actual project is, but are there things that we want to…

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Kalli Mathios: communicate to them that we're hoping for. I mean, we've talked about discovery In this group before.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Oh.

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Kalli Mathios: Does anyone… oh, sorry, Alvare.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: It's from…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: a little perspective, it has to do with the UI, and how we communicate with the UI, and how, data can be actually shared.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I know that we need, to open the… the graph. We still don't.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: But, I guess that there should be expectations from the discovery sick.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Like, what information they expect… expect, to have, or to have access to.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Like, are they, like, expecting, like, a…

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Full notes to be open,

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: what format are they expecting to be stuffed in? Like, are they expecting something like, what the Library of Congress has? Like, or something like BF has? Like, small links at the end?

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't know. That kind of stuff could be interesting.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: No.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, I agree. The nuts and bolts of what they actually…

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Kalli Mathios: would use, and how to get access to it.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Exactly.

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Kalli Mathios: I'm thinking about APIs. I don't know why.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: True, yeah, APIs, exactly.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, what… Like, properties they are expecting to fetch, or classes?

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: And, are they thinking just, VFrame? Are they thinking RDA registry?

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Or something else?

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: It's preliminary.

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Kalli Mathios: Does anyone know if the Discovery SIG is like our SIG, in that they have multiple ways of doing Discovery, but they all…

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Kalli Mathios: semi-seek similar things, or are they rallied around a particular discovery tool or platform, like Viewfind or Blacklight, or is it a… it sounded in the past to me like a mix.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, John says multiple. Thank you.

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Andreas Mace: Well, anything to do with, with discovery is basically indexing. How would you…

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Andreas Mace: how would you index things so that the discovery tool would make sense of the linked data? No matter what type of it you have, you need to index it somehow.

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Andreas Mace: To make sense to whichever.

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Andreas Mace: search engine in the discovery.

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Andreas Mace: solution users.

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Andreas Mace: I'm sure there's… Plenty of knowledge about how to make

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Andreas Mace: Graph data, flattened out into an index.

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Andreas Mace: We do it, sure, ShareBD does it. I'm sure there's a lot of others, but there's no…

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Andreas Mace: Currently, no one… any one of the current discovery solutions that can index that.

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Andreas Mace: And so, that would be…

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Andreas Mace: my perspective, one of the first things, how can we get one of them, at least, anyone, to try and index something

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Andreas Mace: some variety of rib frame, or some other version of link data, and see how that would work out, basically.

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Andreas Mace: Could be Woofinder Blacklight, or it could be EDS, or it could be something else.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah.

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Laura Daniels: That is something we are very interested in at Cornell, thinking about trying to move toward production, because we…

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Laura Daniels: we don't want to create, like, bib frame to convert to mark.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah.

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Laura Daniels: It feels like a chicken-egg.

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Laura Daniels: Situation.

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Kalli Mathios: Tizian, I see your hand. I was hoping you might say something.

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): I was… I'm sorry, because I'm sick, so this is an additional issue. I was thinking to what Andreas was saying, and this comes to my mind, the fact that with index data, we are managing a pilot,

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): project for Palti, network, Palti Consortium. And, within this, pilot, we also have an integration between entities produced, using the LOD platform, so the shared family components, and we find…

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): So, it could be an interesting mix, and this could be an interesting test about how these two components, one that is originally focused on entity, that is shared, and the second one that is originally focused on record, that is buffine, that can work together.

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): So, I think that at a certain time, we can… I hope that we can demo something or discuss about this, the result, this time.

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Kalli Mathios: That would be amazing. I would love to see that, because my mind went to… the discussions I've heard

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Kalli Mathios: in two places. The Blue Core discussions around indexing bibframe, but also the… MMSIG, talking about indexing MARC.

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Kalli Mathios: And how those two will interact.

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Kalli Mathios: And I was thinking more on the back end, but the front… the discovery aspect is… is exactly the same type of…

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Kalli Mathios: thing, so I would love to see that. That would be great. And I'm sure the Discovery SIG would, too, if they haven't already seen it, because that's such a great,

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Kalli Mathios: intersection of our interests. That's so cool. Thank you.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, so we have about 10 minutes left. It sounds like…

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Kalli Mathios: I… I will look through our notes and this recording and make sure that the questions we have for them and the comments are kind of captured in advance so we can review them next week before we meet with them on the 21st. And if there's anything we should gather, like any

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Kalli Mathios: Thing we can share with them, relative links.

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Kalli Mathios: I will look and see if I have anything…

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Kalli Mathios: I don't know if I do… and I don't want to front-load it too much, like, whatever kind of organic conversation we have, there may be new things that surface, but…

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Kalli Mathios: clarity on… Where this discovery… these discovery enhancements are happening.

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Kalli Mathios: What kind of data they're working with, what kind of data they want to work with, and is it what we're making? Is it what we're indexing?

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Kalli Mathios: And what kinds of experiments or pilots or current work is being done by this group in the area of discovery that might be relevant. I've seen other SIGs do, like, crossover presentations and demos, so maybe

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Kalli Mathios: We could get together for something like that with them, so we can see the viewfind and the share.

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Kalli Mathios: together, that might be kind of a cool thing to do, and so you don't have to do it twice.

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Kalli Mathios: But I don't know, if there's other things that come to mind.

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Kalli Mathios: we can keep adding to our list. But that sounds like it'll be a really good discussion.

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Kalli Mathios: Andreas, are you all… indexing?

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Kalli Mathios: They already… do you have a…

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Kalli Mathios: I'm thinking back to a presentation I saw at the Bibframe Workshop in Europe last year. That was pretty… I think they had just talked about types, content types in the Discovery interface.

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Andreas Mace: Yeah, we index… We use Elasticsearch for most of our… front end, oh.

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Andreas Mace: Both cataloging editor and… And the front ends, but it's basically the same.

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Andreas Mace: search index.

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Andreas Mace: For… for both of them.

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Andreas Mace: So we do a lot of stuff there to make it presentable, but it's…

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Andreas Mace: basically flattening out the linked data into regular JSON to be able to be read by Elasticsearch.

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Andreas Mace: And currently, the last I've heard about it was trying to decrease the size of the indexes, because we…

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Andreas Mace: Index the same things over and over in some ways.

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Andreas Mace: So we're looking at making that smaller, but that's details.

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Andreas Mace: Not my area of expertise, per se, but I can probably find out more, and…

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Andreas Mace: To have something to talk about when we meet Dan?

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Kalli Mathios: That would be really helpful, and we… we have Elasticsearch in Synopia.

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Kalli Mathios: We're calling it Synopia Classic. I don't know if we could keep doing that, but the Synopia that currently exists outside of BlueCore. Maybe, Jeremy, we could share some stuff about what we're doing with the BlueCore database?

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Jeremy Nelson: Sure. I mean, we're using… sort of Postgres has really improved its, searching and full-text searching, particularly with JSON objects.

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Jeremy Nelson: So in Blue Core, instead of having a separate

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Jeremy Nelson: search layer, with its own stack. We've, we've been using and having some success with, with using Postgres.

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Jeremy Nelson: And it's indexing, so… But yeah, I'd be happy to talk about that.

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Kalli Mathios: That would be great, especially as we gear up to make change… like, get it to the MVP state, that would be really cool.

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Jeremy Nelson: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Andreas Mace: That'd be very interesting to hear about.

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Andreas Mace: So we both have Postgres and Elasticsearch Index. What's what? And then we have Sparkle on the side, and yeah.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah.

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Andreas Mace: So… It's like, where does the data actually live?

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): And this is the same for our architecture, because also we have Postgres, Solar, or Elasticsearch, and the Triple Store. And I think that also the Library of Congress has the same architecture, if I remember correctly.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, I think that's… that's true.

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Kalli Mathios: Great.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, so to be continued.

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Kalli Mathios: So, I will submit…

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Kalli Mathios: our proposal. Thank you so much for your contributions to that. And then our next meeting will be on April 10th.

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Kalli Mathios: Which is a Friday.

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Kalli Mathios: 7 a.m. Pacific, 10 a.m. Eastern, hopefully that time zone converter works.

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Kalli Mathios: I need to get in the habit of having UTC or

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Kalli Mathios: European Central Time, something, a third, but my brain…

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Kalli Mathios: It's at its limits. Not that that's a good excuse.

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Kalli Mathios: But I think that's all for today, unless there's any other comments, or… Questions?

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, awesome. Thank you so much. We'll see you next month, and we'll be in touch in Slack if anything comes up.

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): See you, bye-bye.

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Charlotte Whitt: I could leave all of you. Now, Alvaro is here, so we could,

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Kalli Mathios: Ask about it.

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Charlotte Whitt: attending the WolfCon, then we…

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Kalli Mathios: Thank you, Charlotte.

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Charlotte Whitt: Maybe if you pull up the notes, I have put in that question mark in the notes, and then we can add it.

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Kalli Mathios: Alvaro, I think you said that.

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Charlotte Whitt: You have to refresh.

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Kalli Mathios: Yeah, yeah. I think you confirmed this the last time we met, but just to double check, may we list you as a co… a panelist and a presenter for our WolfCon presentation?

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yes, yes, please. I have a back.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: 80% of… certainty that I will be.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Going.

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Kalli Mathios: Okay, great. That'll be wonderful. Thank you so much.

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Thank you.

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Kalli Mathios: Cool. Okay, great.

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Charlotte Whitt: Thank you. Thanks so much!

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Kalli Mathios: Have a great week!

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Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Thank you.

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Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye.