WEBVTT 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:39.000 editors, integration pathways. It's almost like I want to say. 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:47.000 Editors, community pathways. and. 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.000 I like… I like that, yeah. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.000 implementation progress. Yeah. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:57.000 Sounds better. Yes. 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:13.000 My soapbox is implementation. it's like we just have to get some implementation stuff off the ground. 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.000 Maybe we can skip progress and then just end implementation. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.000 Cool. 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:27.000 Yeah, yeah, I like that. 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:28.000 Hmm? 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:33.000 There's an interesting conversation that is just bubbling up. 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:43.000 Yay, thanks, Jeremy. For Stanford internally. between our discovery team. 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:49.000 and someone from EBSCO, not Alvaro. about the Linked Data app. 00:24:49.000 --> 00:25:03.000 And I mentioned. like having questions about build, and if we needed a build to bib frame mapping, and I know that's not here like as part of this, but it's just something I'm thinking of. 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:19.000 Um. Because part of me wants to say bib frame implementation, but that's not necessarily true for every folio library either. So I guess we don't need to be that specific. 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.000 No, it's probably better to be a bit vague there. 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:27.000 Okay. 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:34.000 Is… the other question I had for everyone is presenters. So. 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:44.000 I think we talked about this in our last meeting of who was attending likely to attend, and and maybe we can talk about that again, and also who would be comfortable. 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:55.000 listing themselves as a panelist or a co-presenter. I can submit it. I am… I put in my request to attend WolfCon in person. I have not been approved yet. 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:02.000 Um, but it's likely that I'll go to WolfCon, and Nancy may not, but she may go to WolfCon. 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:19.000 There's also the BidFrame Workshop in Europe. So we kind of have to be cognizant of all the different places we're supposed to be, and all the money we're asking for. And the fact that there's different amounts available. So. 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:31.000 Is anyone comfortable or want to be on the panel or a facilitator of the panel, or comfortable listed as a presenter, and then we'll sort of figure out roles. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:39.000 after we're accepted, or once travel funding has been secured. 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:40.000 Yay! 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:48.000 I'm fine with that, I can be a panelist presenter, whatever I I expect to go not approved either, but we would be very surprised if… It was a problem. 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:49.000 Okay. 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:58.000 So, yeah. 00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.000 Okay. 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:08.000 I will be there too, but I prefer to be in the panel, but not with a central role. So something that is not in organizing, but no, no, I can support the organization, of course, and present something, but not leading the panel if it's possible. 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:20.000 Okay, thank you. Okay. 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.000 Okay. 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:27.000 And I think, Kelly, it's all fine. If you list yourself as so you submit, and you list yourself as the main presenter, even that you are have not gotten that final approval. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.000 Okay. 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:32.000 I don't have neither, but I'm also acting like I'm coming. So, you know, we simply have to get things moving here. 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:37.000 Okay. 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:47.000 That's true. May I add your name, Charlotte, or would you rather not be on the panel or presenter? 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.000 And I'm acting like I'm coming… 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.000 Um, yeah, you can add my name, yeah. And we can figure out what to talk about. 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:50.000 Oh, is there? 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:58.000 I'm also acting like I'm coming, so you can put my name on, and Callie, if I am there, I'm happy to help 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.000 To co-facilitate if that's helpful. 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.000 Awesome. That would. 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:06.000 I'm also happy to be the person who is keeping track of all the remote attendees and 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:12.000 panelists, if I'm able to be there, which… 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:13.000 I'm making a use for it. 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:30.000 That would be great. That would be super helpful. Ld4 conference taught me so much. I thought initially, when I chaired that conference, oh, we don't need a we had 3 people facilitating every session, and I was like, that's so many people, but you have one person on the chat, one person on the slack. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:35.000 One person talking, it makes a world of a difference. It's so helpful. 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:41.000 Yeah, I think the only way we can do hybrid… 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.000 not… I won't even say well, but passively, is to have 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.000 people really dedicated to… 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:54.000 facilitating the interaction between those who are remote and those who are in person. 00:28:54.000 --> 00:29:02.000 Yeah. 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.000 Anyone else? 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.000 So now Alvaro is not here today, but we maybe should just check in with him if he, what his interest is. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:15.000 Yeah. 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:23.000 I think I'm gonna be at Wolfcon Valley, so you could add me as presenter. I don't really want to facilitate. 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.000 Mm-hmm. 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:30.000 Okay. Great. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.000 I think Alvaro said he was. going and willing to do it. But I will double check, because you just. 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:37.000 Going. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.000 Never want to add someone's name. Oh, great, Tamika. 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:47.000 Uh, when is… is it this fall? 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:48.000 Okay. 00:29:48.000 --> 00:30:00.000 Yes, it's in September. Let me see if I have a window? I have so many windows open. I'm just seeing if there's a chance. I already have it up. 2026. 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.000 Okay. 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.000 It's the first, yeah, it's the first week in September. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:11.000 So the pre-conference workshops are on August 31st, and then the conference itself is the first 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:21.000 I think the first through the third? 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:31.000 They are on Monday. Yeah, the pre-conference workshops are in person only, and on Monday, August 31st. 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:32.000 But we are doing a regular session, right? Because I'm not going to the workshops, it's that has been. 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:39.000 So, 1st through the 3rd. Yeah, and I… 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.000 skipped for us. Mm-hmm. 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:50.000 Yeah. I have reviewed this spreadsheet and found it or spreadsheet. 00:30:50.000 --> 00:31:11.000 slide deck, and found it very helpful. the form is also really great. I love the software they're using. I don't remember last year if it was the same or not, but I particularly love this year's submission form. I don't know whoever I should tell that to. It's so good. It's so easy. 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:18.000 But I think I'm selecting this in-person hybrid. full panel. 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:26.000 session. It's a little confusing. like. But I think this is the one we want. 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:37.000 Would you all agree? I think this is because we don't want presenters virtual full, and we don't want short session, and we don't want a pre-conference workshop. 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.000 I agree. Yeah, I agree. At least 50 min. 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:43.000 Is this big enough? Yeah. 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:46.000 Yeah, I agree to. 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.000 Yeah, more than likely, I'll probably be, um, hybrid. 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.000 Okay. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.000 But yeah. 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:56.000 Okay. Great. 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:01.000 And now figure out something to proceed if I have to. 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:11.000 and we'll talk about it more like we'll plan typically how it's worked in the past, and I think it's worked really well. We've done a pre-conference. 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:16.000 full day, I believe full day, both were full day, or the first year was a half day. 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:31.000 But we talked about it leading up to the conference and and really figured out who was going to do what, and it was very cohesive, and I think they were really nice sessions, so there'll be support along the way. We won't just… The first step is really submitting this. 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:47.000 getting accepted, and then we can circle back and figure out how we want to… Who wants to talk about what? What kind of questions we want to ask each other. So everyone can prepare and feel confident. 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:53.000 Yay, great. Okay, so I'll try to do this this week. I think it's due on the 25th. 00:32:53.000 --> 00:33:12.000 and I I got halfway through the submission, and I thought, I'll see if it saves what I do, and lets me come back later. And it is, and it's emailing me. Remember your submission. So it's really great process. I need those reminders, and I'm glad it saved what I did, which was just enter my name, basically. 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.000 Kelly, will you share the guidelines in the chat? 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.000 Cool. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:20.000 The wolf can't. Yeah, yeah. The link to that. Cool. 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.000 Let me go here. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:33.000 Yeah, I thought this was so great. And in slide format is also really nice because it's like visual, and you don't have to feel like you're reading an essay. 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:47.000 I always appreciate. Love. the fact that anyone tells you what they're looking for is helpful. But this format I found particularly digestible. 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:57.000 Okay. So with the remaining time, perhaps we can talk a little bit about the Discovery Sig meeting. So. 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:08.000 The 21st will be a Tuesday. So it will be this time next month on the 21st April. 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:23.000 Would it help if I read… The initial ask to the group. Okay, so let me open up my Slack and see if I can find the message. 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:24.000 Okay. 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:31.000 It was in our main channel initially, and then they… had just slide messaged me, or side messaged me. So, Nicole Trujillo from. 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:45.000 The Discovery Sig writes, EBSCO has been testing out some linked data elements in discovery like author pages and sites cited by. We are reaching out to them to see if they would like to discuss these features in further detail, and we'll let you know what we hear. 00:34:45.000 --> 00:35:04.000 We were also wondering if the linked data SIG is interested in having a discussion sometime this summer. So we're meeting a little sooner than that, I guess, depending on where you are, about the development of the linked data app in Folio and the various ways it might impact user resource discovery. 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:05.000 I know I haven't been keeping up with the app development. I'm very interested. 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:13.000 keeping up with the outcome, and then… 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:14.000 I'm sorry I'm late, eh? 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.000 Hi, Alvaro. 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.000 I'm just a meeting. 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:21.000 Like, what's changed our last, uh, at last hour, so… 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.000 Thank you. Thank you. 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:39.000 That's okay. Welcome. We're just talking about the Discovery Sig that wants to meet with us on April 21st. The date has changed. And so I was just reading what Nicole had written to us. 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:47.000 Nicole is at the University of Colorado Boulder, which I believe our former co-convener, Chris Long was there, right? 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.000 Yes. 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:57.000 Yeah, so that's great. It'll be nice to have someone from Boulder back in the group, even if temporarily. So. 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:06.000 Yeah. What do you all think? Had you heard about this? I I hadn't heard about this. The author cards. 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.000 Did she say what environment? 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:13.000 That was? Was that EDS? Is that LOCATE? 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.000 Because my first thought, honestly, was, well, that's… 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.000 Similar to something that we do at Cornell and Blacklight. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.000 Not the cards, but the… well, yeah, kind of a card. 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.000 For authors pulling… pulling from various 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:34.000 Sources. 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.000 I did not say. Alvar, do you know? 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.000 No. 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.000 where the author cards? Is it… What platform? 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.000 I see. 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:54.000 You know, I should… I should know if it's… we actually use EDS for our e-resources. 00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.000 Um, we use Blacklight for our… 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.000 Our catalog data, but we have EDS implemented, so I should be able to look at our EDSs. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.000 Uh, I know… 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:09.000 I know that it is, yeah, I have something called a scholarly graph. 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.000 And, um, I don't know, because I… 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:17.000 And kind of… it's not my area, but uh… 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:24.000 I know they use a knowledge graph, and they have, um, information about authors. 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.000 So, maybe that's it. 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.000 Yeah, they… they… they display… 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.000 I don't know how they… they… 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:39.000 make it, but they make a small knowledge graph. 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.000 for the author. That's what I know about it. 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.000 Yeah, exactly, it's go on the graph. 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:54.000 Maybe that's what they mean by other card. 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:55.000 Yeah, that's the name I heard, people pages. 00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:00.000 Yeah, that's possible people pages. 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.000 That would be very interesting. 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:15.000 Because a question I had, I did hear about this, and one question I had about this. It didn't seem like people could edit. 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.000 the data that's being used for this graph that it's. 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.000 Yeah, 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:32.000 the… I was confused if this was a product or not. Like, is this something you would subscribe to, and then the data would be used in those features, or is this something that. 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:42.000 Libraries would have. the ability to edit if there were issues like in the open Alex data or the Crossref data or maybe EBSCO is doing cleaning. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.000 Oh, what? 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.000 I don't know how open it is, I'm not sure. 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.000 That's a little off topic. 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.000 I know it exists, but I never took the… 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.000 The dental research on that. But, um… 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:03.000 I will have to, too, because I will have… we'll start developing, um, authorities. 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:08.000 Authority, I think capabilities starting on June. 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.000 And, uh, let's… 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.000 people. So… 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:17.000 Uh, um, yeah, and that's… that's something I had, like… 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.000 in my schedule. 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.000 Uh, after, uh, Trillium… 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:27.000 is released to check on that. 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.000 like, uh, how we can, uh, edit 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.000 Hmm. 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.000 people from external sources. 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.000 I don't have an idea. 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.000 And also, I think that, um, 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.000 this thing about, uh, external… 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:46.000 Uh, editors or external tools might be useful. 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:51.000 But the, uh… that's, uh… 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:55.000 It's more like a feeling, you know, because I hadn't made the research. 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:56.000 But the… but we are going that way, at least. 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.000 Yeah. 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.000 the… with the anecdote. 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.000 Um, because authoritious people. 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:19.000 So it sounds. Yeah. So it sounds like it could be. It could be many things. It could be the use of that authority data. 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:20.000 Yeah. 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:29.000 in folio. It could be the scholarly graph. So we need to ask her and confirm where, and my second question, Alvaro is, can you show us that in the future, in the near future? Maybe in like May? 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:30.000 Oh… 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.000 the authorities for people like data. Can you show us that soon? 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:38.000 Oh, I think that… 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:44.000 We start actual development on June, so I guess I could choose something 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.000 In July. 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.000 Oh. Okay, that would be great. 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.000 That would be the… 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.000 Yeah. 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:54.000 Well, yeah. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.000 Yeah, whenever you're ready. I'm sorry, I misunderstood and thought it would be ready in June, but you're saying the development's going to start in June. 00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.000 Yeah. 00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.000 Yeah, we… we're just, uh… 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.000 Okay. Awesome. 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.000 We are starting a static planning. 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.000 Like, like Squeak, we started. 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:20.000 Okay. Okay. 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.000 Own! 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.000 Oh, um… 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:28.000 Awesome, awesome. 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.000 Are there issues we can follow? I'm just very curious about it, because that's my primary role at Stanford. I'm authorities and entity management. So this is like my sweet spot. If you if you have any Jira issues, just as a personal, I would love to see them when you're ready, or when they come together. 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.000 Yeah, yeah. I will make… I will ask you… 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.000 Yeah, for sure, because… 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.000 Um, okay. Okay. Thank you. 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:40.000 Uh, I'm sure, uh, we will bump into a lot of… 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.000 issues, um… 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:48.000 Yeah, and uh… also, I'm wondering… 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:53.000 I don't know also how to manage that, but uh… 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.000 That relates with external, like, ontologies. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:01.000 or vocabularies outside the different. 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.000 So… 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.000 Yeah, I still don't know also how to handle that. 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.000 But, uh, yeah, I will… I will reach out to you. 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:23.000 Yeah. I would love that. I've been thinking about these things, but I have known… I mean, I'm talking about it, but to know you're working on it is very helpful. 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:24.000 Exactly. 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:32.000 Because, yeah, MAD's Rdf, for example, instead of yeah, yeah. Cool. Okay, so. 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:38.000 I don't know where that leaves us. So we have one question about where the actual cards are going. 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.000 like, what… what the actual project is. But are there things that we want to. 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:52.000 communicate to them that we're hoping for. I mean, we've talked about discovery in this group before. 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:56.000 Well, uh… 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.000 from the perspective, it… 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.000 It has to do with the UI. 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.000 How we communicate with the UI. 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.000 And how, um… 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.000 Um, data can be… 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.000 actually shared. 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.000 Um… 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.000 I know that we need, uh, to open the… the graph. 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.000 We still don't? 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:28.000 Uh, but, um, I guess that there should be expectations. 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.000 from the discovery sick. 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:38.000 like, uh, what information they expect to have, or to have access to. 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.000 Like, um, um… 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.000 Are they, like, expecting, like, a… 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.000 full nodes to be open, uh… 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:54.000 what format are they expecting to be stuffed in? 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:59.000 Like, are they expecting something like, um, what, uh, Library of Congress has? 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:03.000 Like, or something like BF has? 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:05.000 It's, like, small links at the end. 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:09.000 Um, I don't know. That kind of stuff could be interesting. 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:18.000 No. 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.000 Yeah, I agree. The nuts and bolts of what they actually would use and how to get access. 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:29.000 Yeah. Exactly. 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.000 True, yeah, APIs. 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.000 Exactly. 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:42.000 I'm thinking about Apis. I don't know why. 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:48.000 Yeah, what, like, properties they are expecting to fetch, or classes? 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.000 And, uh… 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:57.000 Are they thinking just, uh, VFrame? Are they thinking RDI registry? 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.000 Or something else? 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.000 It's relevant to it. 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:15.000 Does anyone know if the Discovery SIG is like our SIG in that they have multiple ways of doing discovery, but they all. 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:37.000 semi-seek similar things, or are they rallied around a particular discovery tool or platform, like viewfind or Blacklight, or is it a it sounded in the past to me like a mix? 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.000 Okay, Jen says multiple. Thank you. 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:48.000 Well, anything to do with with discovery is basically indexing. How would you? 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:59.000 How would you index things so that the discovery tool would make sense of the linked data, no matter what type of it you have, you need to index it somehow. 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:06.000 To mix it to whichever search engine the discovery. 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:15.000 Solution users. I'm sure there's… plenty of knowledge about how to make. 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:35.000 graph data flattened out into an index. Um, we do it, ShareVD does it sure there's a lot of others, but but there's no currently no one. Any one of the the current discovery solutions that can index that. 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:51.000 And so that would be… my perspective. One of the first things, how can we get one of them, at least anyone to try an index something. 00:46:51.000 --> 00:47:01.000 Some variety of frame or some other version of linked data and and see how that would work out, basically. 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:02.000 Could we find our black light, or it could be EDS, or it could be something else. 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:07.000 See if that's there. 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.000 Yeah. 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:16.000 That is something we are very interested in at Cornell, thinking about trying to move toward 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.000 production, because we… 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:31.000 We don't want to create, like, bib frame to convert to mark. 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.000 It feels like a chicken-egg. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:42.000 Situation. 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:47.000 Tizian, I see your hand. I was hoping you might say something. 00:47:47.000 --> 00:48:03.000 I was… I'm sorry, because I'm sick, so this is an additional issue. I was thinking to what Andreas was saying, and this comes to my mind the fact that. 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:20.000 With index data, we are managing a pilot project for Palci network, Palci consortium. And within this pilot, we also have. 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:38.000 An integration between entities produced using the LOD platform, so the share family components and we find. So it could be an interesting mix, and this could be an interesting test. 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:54.000 Uh, about how these two components, one that is originally focused on entity that is shared, and the second one that is originally focused on record that is buffet can work together. 00:48:54.000 --> 00:49:03.000 So I think that at a certain time we can, I hope that we can demo something or discuss about this, the result of this. 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:08.000 That would be amazing. I would love to see that because my mind went to. 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:16.000 the discussions I've heard in 2 2 places, the blue core discussions around indexing bid frame, but also. 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:25.000 the MMSIG talking about indexing mark. And how those two will interact. 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:42.000 and I was thinking more on the back end, but the front, the discovery aspect is… is exactly the same type of thing. So I would love to see that. That would be great. And I'm sure the discovery Sig would too be if they haven't already seen it, because that's such a great. 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:56.000 intersection of our interests. That's so cool. Thank you. 00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:03.000 Okay, so we have about 10 minutes left. It sounds like. 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:21.000 I I will look through our notes and this recording and make sure that the questions we have for them and the comments are kind of captured in advance, so we can review them next week before we meet with them on the 21st, and if there's anything we should gather, like any. 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:29.000 thing we can share with them. Relative links. I will look and see if I have anything. 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:46.000 I don't know if I do, and I don't want to front-load it too much, like, whatever kind of organic conversation we have, there may be new things that surface, but… Clarity on… where this discovery, these discovery enhancements are happening. 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:55.000 What kind of data they're working with? What kind of data they want to work with, and is it what we're making? Is it what we're indexing? 00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:11.000 And what kinds of experiments or pilots or current work is being done by this group in the area of discovery that might be relevant. I've seen other Sigs do like crossover presentations and demos. So maybe. 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:16.000 We could get together for something like that with them. Um, so we can see the viewfind and the share. 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:22.000 together. That might be kind of a cool thing to do. And so you don't have to do it twice. 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.000 But I don't know, if there's other things that come to mind. 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:38.000 We can keep adding to our list. But that sounds like it'll be a really good discussion. 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:44.000 Andreas, are you all indexing the already? Do you have a. 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:56.000 I'm thinking back to a presentation I saw at the Bibframe workshop in Europe last year. That was pretty, I think they had just talked about types, content types in the discovery interface. 00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:03.000 Yeah, uh, we index. We use Elasticsearch for most of our. 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.000 Hmm. 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:12.000 Front end are both cataloging editor and the front ends, but it's basically the same. 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:30.000 Search index for. for both of them. So we do a lot of stuff there to make it presentable, but it's… basically flattening out the linked data into regular JSON to be able to be read by Elasticsearch. 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:44.000 And currently, the last I've heard about it was trying to decrease the size of the indexes because we… index the same things over and over in some ways. 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:49.000 So we're looking at making that smaller. But that's details. 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:57.000 Um, not my area of expertise per se, but can probably find out more and. 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.000 to have something to talk about when we meet then. 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.000 That would be really helpful, and we… we have Elasticsearch in Sunopia. 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:18.000 we're calling it Senopia Classic. I don't know if we could keep doing that, but the Senopia that currently exists outside of Blue Core. Maybe Jeremy, we could share some stuff about what we're doing with the blue core. 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.000 Database. 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:31.000 Sure. I mean, we're using sort of Postgres has really improved its searching and full pack searching, particularly with JSON objects. 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.000 So in Blue Core, instead of having a separate. 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:44.000 Uh, search layer with its own stack. We've, uh, we've been using and having some success with using Postgres. 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:51.000 Um, and it's indexing, so… But yeah, I'd be happy to talk about that. 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:56.000 That would be great, especially as we gear up to make change, like, get it to the Mvp State. That would be really cool. 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:07.000 That'd be very interesting to hear about. So we both have Postgres and Elasticsearch index. What's what? And then we have sparkle on the side. And yeah. 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:11.000 Yeah. 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:12.000 Yeah. 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:16.000 So it's like we're where does the data actually live? Yeah. 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:32.000 And this is the same for our architecture because also we have Postgres, Solar or Elasticsearch and the Triple Store. And I think that also the Labor Congress has the same architecture. 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:38.000 Yeah. Yeah, I think that's that's true. 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:43.000 Great. Okay, so to be continued. 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:48.000 Um, so… So I will submit. 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:56.000 Our proposal. Thank you so much for your contributions to that. And then our next meeting will be on April 10th. 00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:05.000 which is a Friday. 7am Pacific, 10 am. Eastern. Hopefully that time zone converter works. 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:13.000 Um… I need to get in the habit of having Utc or. 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:17.000 European Central Time, something a third, but my brain. 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:23.000 It's at its limits. Not that that's a good excuse. 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:33.000 But I think that's all for today, unless there's any other comments or… Questions? 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:40.000 Okay, awesome. Thank you so much. We'll see you next month, and we'll be in touch in Slack if anything comes up. 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.000 See you. Bye-bye. 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:44.000 Hi, thank you. 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:48.000 Okay. 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.000 Oh, yeah. Thank you, Charlotte. Yeah, Alvaro. 00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:55.000 Oh, before you leave, all of you now, Alvaro is here. So we could ask about attending the Wolfcon, then we… Maybe if you pull up the notes, I have put in that question mark in the notes and then we can add it. 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.000 Oh, great. Um, Alvaro, I think you said this. 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:02.000 you have to refresh, yeah. 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:14.000 Yeah, yeah, I think you confirmed this the last time we met, but just to double check. May we list you as a panelist and a presenter for our WolfCon presentation? 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.000 Yes, yes, please. Uh, I have back. 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:17.000 80% of certainty that I will be. 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.000 Okay. 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.000 Going. 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.000 Okay, great. That'll be wonderful. Thank you so much. 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.000 Thank you. 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.000 Okay. 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.000 Thank you. Goodbye. 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:43.000 Thank you. Bye.