WEBVTT 1 00:04:58.420 --> 00:04:59.270 Scott Peterson: Morning. 2 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:02.140 Susan Kimball: Good morning. 3 00:05:07.390 --> 00:05:09.419 Susan Kimball: How's everyone doing today? 4 00:05:10.550 --> 00:05:15.479 Scott Peterson: It's Monday, after a bad cold snap this weekend, now we're gonna be 80 degrees. 5 00:05:15.890 --> 00:05:19.459 Susan Kimball: We're gonna be, like, 60 today, which is crazy. 6 00:05:19.460 --> 00:05:19.980 Scott Peterson: I know. 7 00:05:21.380 --> 00:05:28.189 Susan Kimball: Well, I'm pretty sure somebody is playing with the thermostat. Yes, I think so, I think so. 8 00:05:29.690 --> 00:05:38.980 Susan Kimball: Oh, Katie, I have an embarrassing question to ask you before anyone outside of Missouri joins the call. How do you pronounce your last name? 9 00:05:39.670 --> 00:05:41.160 Katie Rahman: Oh, Ramon. 10 00:05:41.570 --> 00:05:46.739 Susan Kimball: That's what I was gonna say, but I'm glad I asked, just in case. 11 00:05:52.570 --> 00:06:03.100 Katie Rahman: I've been battling Postman. They… we had, like, a team, right? There was two of us, and then they said, that's not going to be free anymore, right? 12 00:06:03.470 --> 00:06:10.510 Katie Rahman: So, we're gonna… you have to upgrade for, like, $19 a month, and then, okay, we're like, well… 13 00:06:10.890 --> 00:06:28.660 Katie Rahman: just say I'll have my own, and, like, the team kind of remained, but only one person has admin access, and one person is read-only, and the read-only is literally read-only. I can't, like, run a query, I can't do anything. 14 00:06:29.390 --> 00:06:37.509 Katie Rahman: So, I've just been so frustrated this morning, because that's what I wanted to do, and I'm like, why? Nothing's working! 15 00:06:38.640 --> 00:06:40.380 Susan Kimball: That is so frustrating. 16 00:06:41.670 --> 00:06:47.830 Susan Kimball: Well, we just went… live on Sunflower this morning, so that was exciting. 17 00:06:48.510 --> 00:06:52.679 Susan Kimball: And so far, so good, but… 18 00:06:53.220 --> 00:07:07.540 Susan Kimball: I swear, the long list of things you have to do when you go live on a new upgrade is, like… it feels like it's getting longer, like, check these integrations, make all these… and now everybody needs to set up a new account by getting a new password, and… 19 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:13.339 Susan Kimball: I'm hoping this was just especially hard because of the backend change, but… 20 00:07:16.780 --> 00:07:21.230 Thomas Trutt: So no smoke pouring out of the terminals yet? Not yet. 21 00:07:21.780 --> 00:07:29.050 Susan Kimball: I can't search for course reserves, but that's the… the only thing so far. I think somebody just hasn't pinged there. 22 00:07:29.290 --> 00:07:33.950 Susan Kimball: Keycloak to set up their new password on the integration account. 23 00:07:34.970 --> 00:07:36.399 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, I had, 24 00:07:37.340 --> 00:07:44.519 Thomas Trutt: I had all the devs go in and change their passwords, or update their passwords the morning of for all their integration, so that helped. 25 00:07:44.870 --> 00:07:50.649 Thomas Trutt: And I got a message, like, oh, I can't connect, I can't connect, from one of our staff members. 26 00:07:50.950 --> 00:08:09.179 Thomas Trutt: And I'm like, I go, what are you trying to do? What's the username? And they gave me a username, like, there's no username in training, test, or production under that. Like, are you sure? I got a message from another one, like, sorry, they're trying to set up a new integration, and they didn't realize I had to set up in folio first. Oops. 27 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:12.399 Thomas Trutt: I was like, okay, that explains it. Good, it wasn't my fault. 28 00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:14.340 Thomas Trutt: Terrific. 29 00:08:16.780 --> 00:08:18.340 Susan Kimball: Alright. 30 00:08:18.850 --> 00:08:23.029 Susan Kimball: Well, welcome, everyone. Nice to see you all. 31 00:08:23.640 --> 00:08:29.060 Susan Kimball: Here, it is nice and sunny for the first time in a long time, and I'm not complaining. 32 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:33.610 Susan Kimball: We are in Daylight Savings Time. 33 00:08:33.880 --> 00:08:44.100 Susan Kimball: Unless… and unless anybody's from British Columbia, this is a temporary situation. Apparently, British Columbia has decided to… 34 00:08:44.330 --> 00:08:50.480 Susan Kimball: forget the U.S, they're not waiting for the Western states to stay in daylight time, they're just going on their own, which I. 35 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:51.050 Olga: Yes. 36 00:08:51.050 --> 00:08:52.740 Susan Kimball: appreciate, and… 37 00:08:52.740 --> 00:08:53.669 Olga: We did that. 38 00:08:53.670 --> 00:08:56.899 Susan Kimball: Alright, Olga, you're in BC! I forgot! 39 00:08:57.220 --> 00:09:05.940 Susan Kimball: I'm so proud of you. Walk away. We can just… don't wait, because who knows when the U.S. will get connected on that. 40 00:09:05.940 --> 00:09:11.320 Olga: I got that law in 2019, so we were waiting for 7 years. 41 00:09:12.410 --> 00:09:13.820 Olga: Time to move. 42 00:09:13.820 --> 00:09:16.769 Susan Kimball: I'm sorry, I'm sorry for my country folk. 43 00:09:18.420 --> 00:09:21.250 Susan Kimball: Ugh, well, I hope it goes well. 44 00:09:21.460 --> 00:09:22.030 Olga: Yes. 45 00:09:22.030 --> 00:09:26.969 Susan Kimball: I have wanted to do it, although I'm never sure which time I want to stay in. 46 00:09:27.370 --> 00:09:31.180 Olga: Like, depends on what time of the year you at. Exactly. 47 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.989 David Bottorff (UChicago): As someone who has always lived on the eastern edge of a time zone. 48 00:09:37.800 --> 00:09:44.569 David Bottorff (UChicago): DST is the way to go. But if you're on the western edge of the time zone, this is the problem, right? The time zones are very large. 49 00:09:45.010 --> 00:09:48.170 David Bottorff (UChicago): And it really does… make a difference. 50 00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:52.739 Susan Kimball: I think we would all adjust if we did it, though. Just pull the plug. 51 00:09:52.740 --> 00:09:53.780 David Bottorff (UChicago): One way or another. 52 00:09:53.780 --> 00:09:57.770 Susan Kimball: Yeah, exactly. We've complained bitterly, but what else is new? 53 00:09:58.810 --> 00:10:05.079 David Bottorff (UChicago): I mean, granted, we did try that in the 70s… for, like, 6 months in the 70s, and then just said no. 54 00:10:06.260 --> 00:10:08.970 David Bottorff (UChicago): Everybody hated it, and they all moved back. 55 00:10:10.380 --> 00:10:18.170 Susan Kimball: Well, we'll see. Olga will have to report back sometime in the, you know, December. Tell us what you think. 56 00:10:18.170 --> 00:10:27.699 Scott Peterson: Well, in another bit of trivia, Afghanistan operates on a 30-minute plus time zone, so everyone else is different by an hour. They're off by 30 minutes compared to all their neighbors. 57 00:10:29.650 --> 00:10:30.910 Susan Kimball: That's terrible. 58 00:10:33.730 --> 00:10:40.710 Susan Kimball: Oh, alright. Well, let's get started here at 11.05. 59 00:10:41.900 --> 00:11:00.509 Susan Kimball: We have a few agenda items today. I am gonna start with our most exciting news, though, which is that we are getting a new co-convener, and I am so excited to announce that Katie Ramond from the University of Missouri 60 00:11:00.510 --> 00:11:05.489 Susan Kimball: is going to be stepping in to take over, for Cornelia. 61 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:12.799 Susan Kimball: We are really, really excited. Katie's the systems librarian at the University of Missouri. 62 00:11:12.990 --> 00:11:24.889 Susan Kimball: And y'all have been on folio since summer 2022, is that right? That's the same as our timeline, so hard to believe it's been almost 4 years. 63 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.349 Susan Kimball: But… and was part of the… 64 00:11:27.350 --> 00:11:46.569 Susan Kimball: implementation team there, in a complex organization. So we're really happy to have her stepping in, and she will start, next Monday taking over some of Cornelia's things, including taking attendance and things like that on our… on our agenda. 65 00:11:48.160 --> 00:12:02.630 Susan Kimball: So, I will… we'll hear lots more about Katie, but I want to take a moment to just thank Cornelia for all the time and energy she's given this project as a co-convener, for many years. 66 00:12:02.970 --> 00:12:13.099 Susan Kimball: And I'm so grateful for her support, helping me get organized and settled into the co-convenorship, when I came on last January. 67 00:12:13.560 --> 00:12:20.830 Susan Kimball: And, she's graciously agreed to help us continue the JIRA ticket review, and… 68 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:34.199 Susan Kimball: Helping keep track of all the decisions we make in those meetings, which I appreciate. We're getting very close in that meeting to being, to being done. I'm thinking 2 or 3 more meetings, hopefully. Fingers crossed. 69 00:12:34.340 --> 00:12:39.560 Susan Kimball: We don't want you to be stuck with that job forever, Cornelia. 70 00:12:39.880 --> 00:12:55.819 Susan Kimball: So, thank you to both of you, it's really exciting to have some new energy and, new ideas, and just a reminder that nothing that we do is set in stone here. It is entirely, 71 00:12:55.910 --> 00:13:05.150 Susan Kimball: Flexible, and so we can… if things that we're doing now aren't working anymore, we can always think about how to make them better going forward. 72 00:13:06.270 --> 00:13:08.010 Susan Kimball: So, 73 00:13:08.930 --> 00:13:18.210 Susan Kimball: Our… a few things about upcoming meetings. Next, this Thursday, rather. Tom, you are on for FeeFine Working Group, yes? 74 00:13:19.680 --> 00:13:22.650 Susan Kimball: She says, hopefully. Awesome. 75 00:13:22.650 --> 00:13:23.420 Thomas Trutt: Why not? 76 00:13:23.420 --> 00:13:41.580 Susan Kimball: Why not? And then next Monday, if we don't get to the SIG description rewrite that we had started last, last month, then, which we may not have time for, we will do that next Monday. 77 00:13:42.020 --> 00:13:47.999 Susan Kimball: Unless something more urgent comes up. And then next Thursday, we will continue our JIRA ticket review. 78 00:13:48.700 --> 00:13:56.320 Susan Kimball: Just a reminder that calendar calming is in effect, so the last week, the last Monday of March, and the first 79 00:13:56.460 --> 00:13:59.419 Susan Kimball: Thursday of April will be part of that week. 80 00:14:01.170 --> 00:14:05.350 Susan Kimball: Yeah, I think that's it for calendaring. 81 00:14:06.210 --> 00:14:10.080 Susan Kimball: Anything… Else, announcement-wise. 82 00:14:17.260 --> 00:14:27.290 Susan Kimball: Okay, so, our first agenda item is to, talk about… 83 00:14:27.670 --> 00:14:46.119 Susan Kimball: WolfCon. So, WolfCon is coming up in… at a very terrible time, unfortunately. End of August, beginning of September, it's literally, like, over the… whatever, the 29th, the 1st, or something like that. Which is not ideal for some 84 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:54.540 Susan Kimball: higher ed institutions, but that's what it is. But it will be in Prague, which I think people are excited about. 85 00:14:55.320 --> 00:15:02.350 Susan Kimball: I will not be there in person, but I will be there remotely. And… We have to… 86 00:15:02.630 --> 00:15:04.559 Susan Kimball: Come up with any, 87 00:15:05.010 --> 00:15:12.719 Susan Kimball: Presentations or sessions that we want to have, whether those are just meetings or actual presentations. 88 00:15:13.660 --> 00:15:18.339 Susan Kimball: we will… I think we have until the 25th of March to submit those. 89 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:24.289 Susan Kimball: So, this is a brainstorming session about that. 90 00:15:24.430 --> 00:15:29.129 Susan Kimball: I also brought over into our agenda are things that we 91 00:15:29.570 --> 00:15:42.330 Susan Kimball: talked about at our post-conference meeting last year, about things… feedback that folks had about improving the experience for each other. One of the 92 00:15:42.450 --> 00:15:50.330 Susan Kimball: takeaways from that meeting that people were disappointed with is that, depending on where our sessions land in the program, people didn't… 93 00:15:50.650 --> 00:15:52.330 Susan Kimball: Know who their people were. 94 00:15:52.550 --> 00:15:58.670 Susan Kimball: Until, like, later in the conference, like, later, when the first resource access event happened. 95 00:15:58.740 --> 00:16:13.689 Susan Kimball: And that it… there were a couple of ideas about how we might address that. One is to… was to have ribbons that people could wear that designated their interest… special interest groups, so that you could kind of look around and find people. 96 00:16:13.860 --> 00:16:29.840 Susan Kimball: Another idea was to have table tents during the first keynote, so when people show up at the very first thing, you could have, table tents with the… what your area of interest is. 97 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:36.560 Susan Kimball: And another was to, was to kind of… 98 00:16:36.690 --> 00:16:43.020 Susan Kimball: Let folks know that people would be gathering somewhere during one of the… one of the breaks. 99 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:44.330 Susan Kimball: So… 100 00:16:44.860 --> 00:16:57.590 Susan Kimball: these… some of these are ideas that we can share with the program planning committee that could be applied across all the SIGs, not just ours. And if there's no interest in that, then we could potentially do 101 00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:18.709 Susan Kimball: even the table tent with the SIG at the keynote, somebody could just do. Like, and we could just tell folks that we're gonna do it. So some of these, even if we don't get buy-in from the whole, group, we could at least do… there were some things I think we could do on our own, just to help each other find each other. 102 00:17:18.859 --> 00:17:20.089 Susan Kimball: If that makes sense. 103 00:17:21.780 --> 00:17:25.000 Susan Kimball: So, what thoughts… 104 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:31.110 Susan Kimball: Any thoughts about any of that, or ideas about topics that folks want to talk about? 105 00:17:57.020 --> 00:17:59.369 Susan Kimball: I know it seems like a long way away way. 106 00:18:07.100 --> 00:18:10.300 Susan Kimball: Are there things that people would like to see, even if they're not? 107 00:18:10.430 --> 00:18:14.030 Susan Kimball: The one that would be presenting, necessarily. 108 00:18:33.020 --> 00:18:40.640 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): In one WealthCon, we had, like, a show and tell, where several people shared their, folio settings, and 109 00:18:41.210 --> 00:18:49.710 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): It was more, like, go around and chat with people, but this is hard to do for remote participants, but it was really successful. 110 00:18:53.700 --> 00:18:55.170 Susan Kimball: When was that? 111 00:18:57.040 --> 00:18:58.550 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): 22, I think. 112 00:19:01.510 --> 00:19:08.430 Susan Kimball: And was it primarily about… How people were configuring when they were… Implementing. 113 00:19:09.170 --> 00:19:10.140 Susan Kimball: Or… 114 00:19:12.130 --> 00:19:13.120 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Yes. 115 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:14.180 Susan Kimball: Yeah, okay. 116 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:33.449 Susan Kimball: Tom, do you expect to have anything that you are going to want to do? I mean, I know it's 6 months away, it's hard to imagine, but, for fees and fines? 117 00:19:35.760 --> 00:19:36.620 Thomas Trutt: Sure. 118 00:19:36.620 --> 00:19:37.470 Susan Kimball: Glitch. 119 00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:40.349 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, I have… 120 00:19:41.190 --> 00:19:49.749 Thomas Trutt: Lord Daniel suggested, and I had to get… I had to talk to her, so, we're talking about doing two different presentations already, 121 00:19:50.060 --> 00:19:55.650 Thomas Trutt: One is possibly about the migration of our medical school into our current 122 00:19:55.910 --> 00:20:03.109 Thomas Trutt: version of our current installation of Folio, because it's a little bit unique. Not that many people that we know of have done 123 00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:15.019 Thomas Trutt: an integration of a new library into an existing portfolio, for instance. The other one we were looking at doing is around item statuses, is 124 00:20:15.170 --> 00:20:20.209 Thomas Trutt: working with Crosstop to find the pain points and doing a presentation on that. 125 00:20:20.510 --> 00:20:21.430 Thomas Trutt: Alright. 126 00:20:21.690 --> 00:20:27.899 Thomas Trutt: So, yeah, I'm not sure. And I also have to see if I can actually go. 127 00:20:27.900 --> 00:20:28.730 Susan Kimball: Right? 128 00:20:28.730 --> 00:20:34.760 Thomas Trutt: Especially since all our gas prices just went up by, what, how much? 50 cents over the last 3 days? 129 00:20:36.230 --> 00:20:39.639 Susan Kimball: Who knows, that might last a minute, it might last 10 years. 130 00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:41.620 Thomas Trutt: Exactly. 131 00:20:43.090 --> 00:20:52.869 Susan Kimball: Okay, that's… those sound good. I think the item status… Issue will definitely be, 132 00:20:52.980 --> 00:20:56.039 Susan Kimball: something that's of interest to RA folks. 133 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:07.530 Katie Rahman: So, I might be getting… I'm misremembering, but wasn't there, like, some talk of changing how 134 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:14.380 Katie Rahman: The circulation rule table to make it more… user-friendly. 135 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.920 Katie Rahman: I don't… I'm not sure… 136 00:21:20.300 --> 00:21:27.790 Katie Rahman: the… who is the product owner for that? But I thought… 137 00:21:28.030 --> 00:21:32.069 Katie Rahman: they were working on that, but maybe I have that wrong. 138 00:21:33.340 --> 00:21:36.829 Thomas Trutt: So I did throw out a few ideas, 139 00:21:36.830 --> 00:21:37.630 Katie Rahman: Oh, okay. 140 00:21:37.630 --> 00:21:41.319 Thomas Trutt: Circulation rules and the interface falls under, Stephanie Bach. 141 00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:43.360 Katie Rahman: Diffany Park, okay. 142 00:21:48.990 --> 00:21:54.149 Susan Kimball: I know that there was, we have talked about it here, and there was a ticket… 143 00:21:54.270 --> 00:21:58.750 Susan Kimball: I mean, there was some suggestion of making it easier, 144 00:21:58.980 --> 00:22:00.949 Susan Kimball: I think one of the things that… 145 00:22:01.910 --> 00:22:05.989 Susan Kimball: has gotten in the way is that the thinking about the 146 00:22:06.060 --> 00:22:24.960 Susan Kimball: bang for the buck that most of the people that had already slogged through it were like, okay, it's basically set. So when you have it done, it's sort of like, how do you make it better for future folks? But it's also a one-and-done sort of situation where people felt like there were things that we're using every day that 147 00:22:25.270 --> 00:22:33.469 Susan Kimball: would have a higher level of impact, so I think it definitely, was not at the front burner for things that could get updated. 148 00:22:33.580 --> 00:22:39.780 Susan Kimball: Although I definitely… I think it's challenging to use. 149 00:22:40.270 --> 00:22:43.860 Susan Kimball: And Tom did have some good ideas about how it could be improved. 150 00:22:46.390 --> 00:22:47.320 Susan Kimball: Scott. 151 00:22:47.650 --> 00:23:05.439 Scott Peterson: Well, this may go a little bit off-topic. One thing I thought would always be a big help is to actually be able to do, like, a test trace on a… the circulation, rules. You select a patron, select an item, and you just say, okay, what loan rule would it pick using this? And it'll tell you which loan rule on the table matched on that. 152 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:15.040 Scott Peterson: That would make it easier for a lot of the libraries. They have very big rule, rule sets are ones they don't check very often, and it would help with some diagnosing things if you try to solve things pretty quickly. 153 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:20.020 Susan Kimball: Hmm… I feel like… 154 00:23:20.660 --> 00:23:26.909 Susan Kimball: We had a tool like that when we implemented. It's re… it was really old, I can't remember, who… 155 00:23:26.910 --> 00:23:39.070 Thomas Trutt: Erin… I was gonna say, Erin from Duke had, I think it was a Python script or something of that nature that she wrote that would go through and walk the rules, I think. But there's also, if you go back to, like. 156 00:23:39.430 --> 00:23:45.700 Thomas Trutt: dig way, way, way back into YouTube archives, there is some, 157 00:23:46.890 --> 00:24:04.009 Thomas Trutt: initial UI mock-ups of what circulation rules should have, and there was something in there of that nature, where you… I think you gave it a barcode, and it went through and told you what circulation rules would be applied, and what other ones were considered, or something of that nature. It was, like, way, way, way, way, way, way back. 158 00:24:04.510 --> 00:24:08.310 Thomas Trutt: Way before my years. 159 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:20.089 Scott Peterson: Well, it's a shame it can't be updated. I could see a Python script being adapted, but something as a built-in tool for anybody at the CERC desk or running rules to actually check it would probably be a better approach. 160 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:23.420 Susan Kimball: Yeah. 161 00:24:26.250 --> 00:24:32.189 Susan Kimball: Thanks, Robert. Can you tell us a little bit more? What do you know about that, the one that Kyle's working on? 162 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:37.449 Robert Heaton: I could look for… For chat. 163 00:24:38.430 --> 00:24:38.930 Susan Kimball: Okay. 164 00:24:39.190 --> 00:24:50.550 Robert Heaton: history on it. I think, he tends to… to do things in kind of compact local scripts that you could use PowerShell for, that kind of thing. His… 165 00:24:50.840 --> 00:25:06.030 Robert Heaton: kind of ethos tends to be pro-sharing, so I don't know if he's got that already started in the, you know, community GitHub space or anything, but, I'll… maybe I'll post a summary if I can find… find some useful history of it. 166 00:25:06.910 --> 00:25:07.980 Susan Kimball: Thank you. 167 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.160 Susan Kimball: All right. Other… Power. Yeah. 168 00:25:15.340 --> 00:25:19.289 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Yeah, so the question I'm asking myself is, 169 00:25:19.530 --> 00:25:25.080 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Do we plan, like, advanced, 170 00:25:26.520 --> 00:25:33.289 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): yeah, advanced stuff for people that already are on folio to present, or… 171 00:25:33.500 --> 00:25:40.710 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Can we go a step back and maybe explain some, basic stuff in depth for, 172 00:25:40.840 --> 00:25:44.590 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Libraries that are new to folio, Offer… 173 00:25:44.690 --> 00:25:55.260 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): offer something like an introduction workshop in… I don't know, calendar, we had one year, or title level requests, or whatever. 174 00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:04.600 Susan Kimball: Yeah, I'm curious about what the audience is that we're, 175 00:26:06.280 --> 00:26:08.489 Susan Kimball: you know, I don't know who the… 176 00:26:09.100 --> 00:26:14.560 Susan Kimball: I don't know who the target audience is likely to be, you know what I mean? I'm not sure… 177 00:26:15.450 --> 00:26:23.370 Susan Kimball: If folks who are… have been on folio for a few years are more likely to be there, or… 178 00:26:23.500 --> 00:26:28.800 Susan Kimball: folks who are just coming on, or folks who are not even using Folio yet, because I feel like… 179 00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:31.739 Susan Kimball: Last year, it was kind of a mix. 180 00:26:33.250 --> 00:26:49.180 Susan Kimball: there were a lot of people that had just sort of come on, because Mobius had just come on, so there was a huge number of folks from Missouri, which made total sense. But I'm not sure what's going to make sense across the pond, and who to anticipate. 181 00:26:50.170 --> 00:27:00.050 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, I was gonna say, I can tell you the workshops, one of the most popular ones is the one that Tara led, which was basically a folio boot camp or training. That was a half-day one. 182 00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:13.820 Thomas Trutt: And as I said, we're looking for workshops, so if anyone would like to lead a workshop for half a day or a day on circulation rules and policies, and how to set all that up, and how they interact, I actually think, 183 00:27:14.650 --> 00:27:24.550 Thomas Trutt: A lot of people, even people that are currently running Photolito, might be interested in that. I would do it, but I get to run around and do other things, so… 184 00:27:24.550 --> 00:27:28.619 Susan Kimball: I was gonna say, and you also tend to overbook yourself, I'm just gonna say that. 185 00:27:29.010 --> 00:27:34.419 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hence the reason why I said, like, oh, I have two other presentations, and . 186 00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:34.940 Susan Kimball: Exactly. 187 00:27:34.940 --> 00:27:40.600 Thomas Trutt: I'm just gonna look at those for right now, because I'm gonna get pulled into 20 other things. I know I am, so… Right. 188 00:27:41.770 --> 00:27:42.419 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Oh, I like that. 189 00:27:42.770 --> 00:27:44.460 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): I like Katie's suggestion. 190 00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:45.700 Susan Kimball: Yeah. 191 00:27:46.120 --> 00:27:49.249 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Yeah. An introduction to notices and staff slips, yeah. 192 00:27:53.940 --> 00:27:54.390 Susan Kimball: Yeah. 193 00:27:54.390 --> 00:27:57.349 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): This, this… Not enough for a workshop. 194 00:27:57.350 --> 00:27:58.389 Susan Kimball: No, no. 195 00:27:58.390 --> 00:27:58.760 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Is it? 196 00:27:58.760 --> 00:27:59.190 Susan Kimball: That's sick. 197 00:27:59.190 --> 00:28:00.900 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): as a SICK presentation. 198 00:28:01.310 --> 00:28:03.269 Susan Kimball: But it could be… yeah, it could be. 199 00:28:03.500 --> 00:28:10.070 Susan Kimball: Haha, who would want to do such a thing? 200 00:28:10.210 --> 00:28:12.950 Susan Kimball: I wonder… What do you… I think we've only… 201 00:28:13.330 --> 00:28:16.260 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): I would be willing to join someone who prepares. 202 00:28:18.360 --> 00:28:20.869 Susan Kimball: I was gonna say, I wonder if we can get Julie to come back. 203 00:28:21.550 --> 00:28:23.209 Thomas Trutt: Absolutely. I was gonna say, if… 204 00:28:23.470 --> 00:28:33.359 Thomas Trutt: So, mainly because I need them, or we need them, if you are interested in doing a workshop, there's a 4-hour slot and a full-day slot. 205 00:28:33.390 --> 00:28:48.080 Thomas Trutt: And I know last year there was a stipend that was given out to people who did teach them. So, I mean, I honestly think you could spend easily 4 hours on going through the CERC rules and all the policies and that sort of thing, if you were interested in doing something on Monday. 206 00:28:48.870 --> 00:28:53.540 Thomas Trutt: I know, it's a shameless plug, but I can't help myself. 207 00:28:53.540 --> 00:28:54.450 Susan Kimball: Bye! 208 00:28:56.260 --> 00:29:08.589 Katie Rahman: No, I think that's a good idea, and I don't know if I would be able to go, but I would be interested in working on it, with someone else, not by myself, since I've… 209 00:29:08.590 --> 00:29:20.809 Katie Rahman: But, you know, I'm kind of the person that does all the circulation rules for a consortium, because, you know, I made it so complicated that other people don't want to go in there. 210 00:29:20.930 --> 00:29:26.490 Katie Rahman: So… but I think that's a good idea. I think it's one of the most confusing things. 211 00:29:26.620 --> 00:29:33.290 Katie Rahman: About… You know, when you're being set up, on how to… 212 00:29:33.530 --> 00:29:47.640 Katie Rahman: go through that and make that, work for you, and… and also for troubleshooting, like Scott said, you know, how to figure that out, maybe have that as part of it as well. 213 00:29:50.650 --> 00:30:04.089 Katie Rahman: So, but I don't think I could do it on my own if someone else wanted to help and join me, just to make sure, you know, double check that my, everything I'm doing… saying and doing is correct, but… 214 00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:18.540 Robert Heaton: I think we do also have folks stepping into positions. You know, what folio's been around long enough that someone new is stepping into that thing that someone else has created, and I think you would have people say. 215 00:30:18.620 --> 00:30:39.449 Robert Heaton: please help me understand what I'm seeing here. And from my perspective, working with new libraries, I do think there is often that question of what really is the best practice, and often the answer is, it depends on what you're looking for, you know, do you do patron groups and then material types? Do you bother with loan types or not? Do you do things at a certain level of the locations hierarchy? Do you repeat 216 00:30:39.450 --> 00:30:44.799 Robert Heaton: You know, row by row with the plus saying this plus that, this plus that, so it's more, like. 217 00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:54.470 Robert Heaton: viewable, but less maybe elegant, or due to a row with exceptions. So I do think we could at least talk through what some of the principles are and what some of the trade-offs would be. 218 00:30:54.600 --> 00:30:58.549 Robert Heaton: And when I say we, I mean people that will be at WolfCon, but… 219 00:31:02.210 --> 00:31:13.980 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): So, I would be totally happy to do a workshop or a session with someone, either the circulation rules workshop or the notices session. 220 00:31:14.250 --> 00:31:20.389 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Yeah, together with anyone who is willing, but you need to be in person for the workshops, I think. 221 00:31:22.840 --> 00:31:31.329 Thomas Trutt: Yes, there… well, let me put it… there should be at least one person there. So, last year for linked data. 222 00:31:31.650 --> 00:31:36.900 Thomas Trutt: And I'm gonna… I'm gonna mutilate his name, and I really apologize for that, Avero. 223 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:43.129 Thomas Trutt: I believe that's his name. He did have, a few people from… 224 00:31:43.270 --> 00:32:01.880 Thomas Trutt: the National Library of Sweden that did Zoom in to help with some of the co-teaching of that workshop. So, as long as there's one person there teaching, helping, with the in-person part, all the participants have to be in person, though. We don't allow virtual participants in the workshops, but… 225 00:32:06.840 --> 00:32:14.320 Thomas Trutt: And since I'm actually kind of the coordinator for it, I can also help make exceptions, so… 226 00:32:22.470 --> 00:32:31.759 Susan Kimball: I'm muted. I'm hearing interest in a circulation rules workshop as a possible thing that Cornelia would 227 00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:39.900 Susan Kimball: help with. Katie, did you say you are also willing to help with The workshop aspect? 228 00:32:40.510 --> 00:32:42.499 Susan Kimball: For circulation rules? Okay. 229 00:32:43.170 --> 00:32:45.190 Susan Kimball: Great. That's amazing. 230 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:51.690 Susan Kimball: If… and those are… how long are those, Tom? They're half day? 231 00:32:53.840 --> 00:32:55.939 Susan Kimball: the workshops, I assume, I think you. 232 00:32:55.940 --> 00:33:02.860 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, there's, two choices. There's a half-day workshop, which is usually, like, 9 to 12. 233 00:33:03.070 --> 00:33:08.529 Thomas Trutt: And then full day, which is the 9-12 session, and then, 1 to 4. Gotcha. 234 00:33:08.530 --> 00:33:10.289 Susan Kimball: I can't imagine it would take a whole day. 235 00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:21.370 Thomas Trutt: Depending on how much you want to get in-depth, I mean, if you're covering the circulation rules, plus also, like, fee fine policies, notice policies, and other stuff. 236 00:33:21.620 --> 00:33:27.410 Thomas Trutt: you might be able to fill an entire day session with it. I… it's… it's a… it's not… 237 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.959 Susan Kimball: much, but it's complicated. Right, right. 238 00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:36.529 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): We're gonna go in-depth with all, 239 00:33:37.090 --> 00:33:42.740 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): With all the age to last, yeah. And people need time to practice. 240 00:33:42.900 --> 00:33:44.590 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Could be a full day, yeah. 241 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:45.470 Susan Kimball: Yep. 242 00:33:45.470 --> 00:33:48.579 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, just going over fee fines will take half a day. 243 00:33:49.060 --> 00:33:49.600 Thomas Trutt: Right, yeah. 244 00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:55.950 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Yeah. Oh, Katie, let's prepare something, and whoever wants to join us. 245 00:33:59.220 --> 00:34:06.790 Susan Kimball: I would be… so I'm gonna be… I mean, gonna be attending virtually, so I could be on… 246 00:34:07.030 --> 00:34:16.059 Susan Kimball: I don't know. I can help in whatever way I can help virtually, whether that's to be an extra person, to be, you know. 247 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:31.759 Susan Kimball: giving… I imagine with something like this, there might be, you know, individual working time, so if it would help to have somebody else that could be one-on-one helping, talking with someone, I could do that, or whatever. So, just let me know. 248 00:34:34.310 --> 00:34:39.190 Susan Kimball: And then the notices and staff slip session probably could just be a session. 249 00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:49.979 Susan Kimball: And I'd be happy to work on that with someone who's in person, but I can ask, 250 00:34:51.880 --> 00:35:01.680 Susan Kimball: I could ask Julie if she is going to be around, or if she's… I know she's not doing PL anymore, but I'm curious if she'd be interested in having a session. 251 00:35:06.470 --> 00:35:09.609 Susan Kimball: Or if there's anyone else who's interested in… 252 00:35:10.210 --> 00:35:12.620 Susan Kimball: offering a session like that, I do think. 253 00:35:12.790 --> 00:35:15.670 Susan Kimball: That is something that… Folks. 254 00:35:16.690 --> 00:35:22.530 Susan Kimball: Either if you haven't implemented yet, or you implemented, but then you have, 255 00:35:23.090 --> 00:35:27.769 Susan Kimball: you know, you're interested in revamping your notices or whatever, it could be useful. 256 00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:28.969 Susan Kimball: Thing to do. 257 00:35:31.080 --> 00:35:38.170 Susan Kimball: Do we want to have a general… 258 00:35:38.470 --> 00:35:41.980 Susan Kimball: RA SIG session, or a placeholder. 259 00:35:42.110 --> 00:35:47.950 Susan Kimball: That we just put in so that we have… a time and space allotted. 260 00:35:49.240 --> 00:35:55.740 Susan Kimball: I have to say I'm ambivalent about it, because it is hard to hold, like, a business meeting in a hybrid. 261 00:35:56.130 --> 00:35:57.400 Susan Kimball: environment. 262 00:35:57.530 --> 00:36:01.740 Susan Kimball: However, If we want to have a space. 263 00:36:03.230 --> 00:36:08.969 Susan Kimball: A lot can happen between now and then, so having a designated time and space is… 264 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.599 Susan Kimball: I think is advisable. 265 00:36:16.410 --> 00:36:17.820 Susan Kimball: Thoughts on that? 266 00:36:25.690 --> 00:36:32.259 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): I agree, that might be helpful, but would be… would be better to have topic until then, too. 267 00:36:32.520 --> 00:36:35.610 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Just not do a regular meeting, but, 268 00:36:36.210 --> 00:36:39.859 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Decide on a topic that can… Can be discussed. 269 00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:41.320 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Hybrid. 270 00:36:42.190 --> 00:36:44.190 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Like we did the years before. 271 00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:45.440 Susan Kimball: Yeah. 272 00:36:46.810 --> 00:36:54.820 Susan Kimball: Well, I can put in a general request for… A slot, and then… 273 00:36:56.080 --> 00:37:00.089 Susan Kimball: When it gets closer, we can come up with a topic. 274 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:08.220 Susan Kimball: That… Or anything that arises that we think would be better to have in a more… 275 00:37:08.600 --> 00:37:11.689 Susan Kimball: In-person environment, or hybrid environment. 276 00:37:16.730 --> 00:37:22.890 Susan Kimball: Well, if others… Come up with, ideas. 277 00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:29.910 Susan Kimball: for what they would like to either present on. I will also send this out on Slack. 278 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:38.989 Susan Kimball: So that folks can weigh in on either things they would like to present on, or things that they would like to hear about. 279 00:37:41.780 --> 00:37:44.080 Susan Kimball: We will go from there. 280 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.680 Susan Kimball: Alright, thanks, everyone. 281 00:37:50.080 --> 00:38:00.710 Susan Kimball: Cornelia, you had the next item about adding a service point discovery display name as a notice token. 282 00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:05.139 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Oh, yes. 283 00:38:05.950 --> 00:38:18.739 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Just for a short… visualization, I… Share my screen. 284 00:38:22.600 --> 00:38:26.960 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): So, service points do have a folio name. 285 00:38:27.620 --> 00:38:33.470 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): And they do have, discovery Display Name, and… 286 00:38:34.590 --> 00:38:46.769 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Usually what you see in WooFind, in your patron's account, or when you request something, it's the Discovery Display name, but the… for, as a token for the… 287 00:38:47.370 --> 00:39:00.349 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): patron notice, like, for this is, waiting for you. It's just a folio name. So you can, have, like, two quite different names, 288 00:39:00.970 --> 00:39:09.260 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): available to patrons, and I haven't found a ticket to make a discovery display name, 289 00:39:09.640 --> 00:39:12.929 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): A notice token, and… yeah. 290 00:39:13.100 --> 00:39:22.050 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Are there any objections if I put Jira in, and… Why… Didn't this bother anyone before? 291 00:39:26.220 --> 00:39:30.440 Susan Kimball: I don't know why it didn't bother anyone before, but, 292 00:39:31.230 --> 00:39:36.440 Susan Kimball: It's funny that it… well, when you first said there's a Discovery display name, I was sort of thinking. 293 00:39:36.550 --> 00:39:50.600 Susan Kimball: why would the service point ever display in discovery? It's really on the user account, right? Like, when you have a pickup… when you select a pickup location, is that the only place that it would show in a public… 294 00:39:51.630 --> 00:39:52.940 Susan Kimball: Environment? 295 00:39:53.640 --> 00:39:58.970 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Yeah, it's like when you click on the request button, and then have to choose where to. 296 00:39:58.970 --> 00:39:59.320 Susan Kimball: Nope. 297 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:05.190 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Get it from, and then on your… in your account, like, your requested items. 298 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:06.479 Susan Kimball: Would show, okay. 299 00:40:07.160 --> 00:40:08.120 Susan Kimball: Interesting. 300 00:40:09.330 --> 00:40:10.010 Susan Kimball: Yep. 301 00:40:10.010 --> 00:40:15.399 David Bottorff (UChicago): Yeah, it would be in my… yeah, exactly in that situation, that's where it shows up. Yeah, I agree, I mean, it makes… 302 00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:20.920 David Bottorff (UChicago): It makes sense, we should always… whenever there's a Discovery Display name, I think that should be… 303 00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:23.029 David Bottorff (UChicago): Possible as a… as a token. 304 00:40:26.830 --> 00:40:29.459 Susan Kimball: Yeah, I don't have any objections to writing that up. 305 00:40:30.990 --> 00:40:31.600 Cornelia Awenius (UB Mainz): Okay. 306 00:40:35.240 --> 00:40:41.639 David Bottorff (UChicago): This reminds me of… I was just… I was just reminded recently that you can't write circulation rules 307 00:40:42.020 --> 00:40:44.330 David Bottorff (UChicago): By service point, which is unfortunate. 308 00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:48.869 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, I'd love it. 309 00:40:48.870 --> 00:40:50.980 David Bottorff (UChicago): I had a brilliant, I had a brilliant… 310 00:40:51.560 --> 00:40:56.620 David Bottorff (UChicago): solution that required it to be locked down to a specific service point. Didn't work. 311 00:40:57.460 --> 00:41:07.919 Thomas Trutt: I'd love to do other things in the circulation rules, like service points, but also bring in custom fields for the user records and other pieces of data. 312 00:41:08.180 --> 00:41:12.649 Thomas Trutt: To actually have it almost like it's more of a query language than the way it is now, but… 313 00:41:14.210 --> 00:41:19.559 Susan Kimball: needs to be more flexible. And more usable, my mere mortals. 314 00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:33.439 Thomas Trutt: Yeah, one of the ideas I had was using a drop… was drop-down menus, almost, similar to what they did with the, data export for the bursa transfer, 315 00:41:34.140 --> 00:41:36.350 Thomas Trutt: But… a little bit more simpler. 316 00:41:37.310 --> 00:41:38.070 Thomas Trutt: Yeah. 317 00:41:48.490 --> 00:41:51.530 Susan Kimball: Oh, thank you, Robert, for putting that in the chat. 318 00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:58.969 Susan Kimball: That's good. 319 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:08.160 Susan Kimball: Maybe that's something you can use, Scott, for the… Checking of certain rules. 320 00:42:08.890 --> 00:42:10.660 Scott Peterson: Sure, I can take a look at it. 321 00:42:11.050 --> 00:42:11.810 Susan Kimball: Awesome. 322 00:42:15.450 --> 00:42:25.180 Susan Kimball: Alright, let's see, it's 11.36. Do we want to take a stab at the… Description or not. 323 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:27.170 Susan Kimball: I'm ambivalent. 324 00:42:27.530 --> 00:42:32.869 Susan Kimball: I did let, Gemini take a crack at it. It's a little bit, 325 00:42:33.030 --> 00:42:44.710 Susan Kimball: It sounds like it was written by AI, so… I did take our original description, and and… 326 00:42:45.230 --> 00:42:53.749 Susan Kimball: Put in the discussion that we had, or, like, the takeaways of what we said we wanted it to do better. 327 00:42:55.790 --> 00:42:59.769 Susan Kimball: it's a little fluffy, so I'm torn about… 328 00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:11.990 Susan Kimball: what is the best way forward, whether we should… I don't really want to group edit in a meeting setting, but I'm curious what folks think about 329 00:43:12.170 --> 00:43:20.640 Susan Kimball: Having… either creating a Google Doc and inviting folks to weigh in on it. 330 00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:26.550 Susan Kimball: Or what's… what is the best… approach to… 331 00:43:28.270 --> 00:43:36.940 Susan Kimball: rewriting our description. Do people have thoughts about preferred… approach. 332 00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:44.030 Susan Kimball: I don't love the group editing in a committee meeting, sort of. 333 00:43:44.250 --> 00:43:50.259 Susan Kimball: I find it very painful. But… or we could just have a couple people look at it 334 00:43:50.530 --> 00:43:55.730 Susan Kimball: on the side, that's the other thing, is assigning a subcommittee is always another option. 335 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.640 Susan Kimball: I'm curious what people… how people would like to approach that. 336 00:44:16.810 --> 00:44:20.680 Susan Kimball: I know it's not rising to the top of anyone's to-do list. 337 00:44:25.210 --> 00:44:26.070 Susan Kimball: Alright. 338 00:44:26.490 --> 00:44:29.520 Susan Kimball: I guess I will make a… 339 00:44:30.050 --> 00:44:33.620 Susan Kimball: Document and send it out in advance of our next 340 00:44:34.110 --> 00:44:44.559 Susan Kimball: meeting, so… well, I'll do it soon so that folks have time to look at it and make comments on it. I'll do it on a Google Doc so everyone can add their comments or thoughts. 341 00:44:44.750 --> 00:44:52.460 Susan Kimball: And then we can talk about it at next week's meeting? Does that sound like a reasonable… Approach. 342 00:44:58.370 --> 00:44:59.030 Susan Kimball: Okay. 343 00:44:59.030 --> 00:45:00.240 Scott Peterson: Sure, it does. 344 00:45:00.430 --> 00:45:07.779 Susan Kimball: Okay, thank you. Alright, anything else anyone wants to share? 345 00:45:09.990 --> 00:45:26.400 Susan Kimball: Oh, I think I forgot to say this before… I wanted to remind folks that we are using AI for, minutes of the meetings, so I think we've caught up on all the older meetings. I went back and did a bunch of them. 346 00:45:26.910 --> 00:45:35.530 Susan Kimball: We can either use the Zoom AI, which if we turn on the Zoom AI, it generates, 347 00:45:35.650 --> 00:45:40.690 Susan Kimball: a synopsis of our meeting, which Peter Murray sends to us 348 00:45:40.740 --> 00:45:57.750 Susan Kimball: At the conclusion of the meeting, and then I go through and clean it up and make sure it doesn't get something mortally wrong. The other way that it can happen if we don't turn on the Zoom AI is that 349 00:45:57.830 --> 00:46:06.349 Susan Kimball: I can download the transcript and the chat transcript, and put them through Gemini. 350 00:46:06.390 --> 00:46:19.949 Susan Kimball: at Amherst College, which is an institutional account, so it doesn't go back to train the model. It's just held internally, and then I clean those up. So those are the two methods that AI Minutes 351 00:46:19.950 --> 00:46:29.759 Susan Kimball: could be generated, just so folks know. And I do have a caveat at the top that they are AI-generated, so that folks know that 352 00:46:30.160 --> 00:46:38.229 Susan Kimball: Might not be exactly precise, but it's still better than asking for a minute taker, which some of you may know is, like. 353 00:46:39.550 --> 00:46:45.090 Susan Kimball: Pulling teeth. Nobody wants to be the minute taker, even if we rotate it, so… 354 00:46:45.810 --> 00:47:03.740 Susan Kimball: It's better than no minutes, sort of how I was thinking. And that way, you can… if you get a general idea of what… what was discussed in each, and the decisions, then at least you could go back and watch the recording if you wanted to get more detail. Yeah, David. 355 00:47:03.930 --> 00:47:10.219 David Bottorff (UChicago): I was just gonna say, yeah, personal experience, they're, they're, they're fine, I would say. They do definitely still require 356 00:47:10.900 --> 00:47:19.130 David Bottorff (UChicago): a note taker, or not a note… a note cleaner upper, as you pointed out, Susan. You've got to go through and, like, you know, correct 357 00:47:19.630 --> 00:47:24.719 David Bottorff (UChicago): You know, either obvious… Sometimes there's just a little bit of a hallucination. 358 00:47:24.940 --> 00:47:39.449 David Bottorff (UChicago): Often it's more just, like, a mishearing, like, I think in a recent one, we were talking about Aeon, the Atlas Systems, Special Collections module, and, it was saying AI. 359 00:47:40.640 --> 00:47:47.630 David Bottorff (UChicago): Like, they were talking about integrations with AI, and I didn't know what was happening, because I had missed that meeting, and they said, oh, no, no, no, we were talking about Aeon. 360 00:47:51.190 --> 00:47:56.899 Susan Kimball: Yeah, and I did go back and do some older ones, and it was a lot harder… 361 00:47:56.980 --> 00:48:12.179 Susan Kimball: doing them from December. I was like, what did we talk about? So my plan going forward is to grab them. We just got Gemini institutionally, and I did not want to be putting it up just out into the ether, so I waited until we had 362 00:48:12.540 --> 00:48:20.150 Susan Kimball: Gemini here at Amherst, and now… Now we do, so… At least there's that. 363 00:48:20.470 --> 00:48:22.620 Susan Kimball: Piece that makes it a little bit easier. 364 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:31.870 Susan Kimball: So, any other… Questions, thoughts? 365 00:48:32.010 --> 00:48:38.320 Susan Kimball: And at any point, if anybody doesn't want the AI to be doing it, they can volunteer to do minutes. 366 00:48:38.950 --> 00:48:46.460 Susan Kimball: That's fine. But we do want to definitely, if folks want to opt out, that we do have that at the top of our… 367 00:48:46.710 --> 00:48:51.240 Susan Kimball: Out of our agendas, so that folks are aware. 368 00:48:54.030 --> 00:48:55.100 Susan Kimball: Alright. 369 00:48:55.330 --> 00:48:58.539 Susan Kimball: Anything else before we break? 370 00:49:02.930 --> 00:49:06.229 Susan Kimball: Okay, thank you, everyone. 371 00:49:06.930 --> 00:49:13.340 Susan Kimball: And we will see some of you on Thursday to talk about fees and fines. 372 00:49:14.450 --> 00:49:15.810 Susan Kimball: Thanks, everybody. 373 00:49:15.810 --> 00:49:17.379 Scott Peterson: Okay, have a good day. 374 00:49:17.390 --> 00:49:17.900 Susan Kimball: Bye. 375 00:49:18.450 --> 00:49:19.200 Lisa Perchermeier: Every day.