00:03:35 Laura Daniels: you could also delegate it... I can do it today 00:05:43 Martina Schildt: Replying to "you could also deleg..." I agree, we can share the task 00:10:45 Laura Daniels: Owen said what I was going to say -- the user preferences stuff seems right up our alley 00:10:56 Martin Scholz: Reacted to "Owen said what I was..." with 👍 00:11:28 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Reacted to "Owen said what I was..." with 👍 00:12:54 Maura Byrne: Reacted to "Owen said what I was..." with 👍 00:13:19 Martina Schildt: Reacted to "Owen said what I was..." with 👍 00:15:25 Kristin Martin: It's most fields, but not all fields 00:16:02 Owen Stephens: Its also very cheap 🙂 00:16:51 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Replying to "Its also very cheap ..." I’m an outsider, but I will go to the APIs directly just to get the JSON instead of a CSV. 00:17:07 Martin Scholz: Reacted to "I’m an outsider, but..." with ➕ 00:18:10 Owen Stephens: Replying to "Its also very cheap ..." Yes - although I don’t think that its necessarily typical for a user to know how to do that. There is obviously an argument that the typical user also has no use for JSON of course which frustrates me no end. If only Excel would open JSON nicely :S 00:18:20 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Reacted to "Yes - although I don..." with 💯 00:18:50 Maura Byrne: Reacted to "Yes - although I don..." with 💯 00:18:54 Maura Byrne: Reacted to "I’m an outsider, but..." with ➕ 00:19:33 Owen Stephens: Can you offer a definition of what makes something qualify as a “report” ? 00:19:40 Tara Barnett (Index Data): This is giving me deja vu to our printing conversation here in this group, maybe? https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/AppInt/pages/737050673/2025-03-05+Cross+App+SIG+Meeting+notes 00:20:42 Owen Stephens: Reacted to "This is giving me de..." with 💯 00:23:52 Maura Byrne: Replying to "Its also very cheap ..." Lehigh did a presentation at WOLF Con about the complexity and learning curves of different reporting options. 00:24:08 Martin Scholz: Reacted to "Lehigh did a present..." with 😯 00:24:39 Martin Scholz: Replying to "Its also very cheap ..." Which presentation is it? 00:25:52 Maura Byrne: Replying to "Its also very cheap ..." Thursday, September.25, 2:30 p.m. “A Nested Approach to FOLIO Reporting.” 00:25:59 Martin Scholz: Reacted to "Thursday, September...." with 🙏 00:26:05 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Reacted to "Thursday, September...." with 🙏 00:27:03 Kimberly Smith (MTSU): We have the same problem in Bulk edit with Instance UUIDs 00:27:20 Jennifer Eustis: Reacted to "We have the same pro..." with 👍🏻 00:27:27 Laura Daniels: 😱 (to what Kevin just described) 00:27:37 Maura Byrne: Reacted to "😱 (to what Kevin ju..." with ➕ 00:27:42 Martin Scholz: Reacted to "😱 (to what Kevin ju..." with 😂 00:28:20 Kristin Martin: https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ACQ/pages/1014071298/2025-05-23+Acquisitions+Meeting+notes+-+PC+Updates+Implementers+Topics+177+178 00:28:54 Tara Barnett (Index Data): People do it!!! 00:29:12 Tara Barnett (Index Data): It gives me much anxiety on the hosting side. 00:29:16 Maura Byrne: Replying to "People do it!!!" But should they? 00:30:48 Kimberly Smith (MTSU): The "nested" data in invoices is frustrating in the CSV export 00:31:19 Martin Scholz: I have to run, unfortunately. 👋 00:31:28 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Reacted to "I have to run, unfor..." with ❤️ 00:38:11 Maura Byrne: I’m good with that - I was afraid we’d gone off the reservation with this discussion. 00:38:58 Kimberly Smith (MTSU): Invoices pulls some information from the orders app 00:40:27 Maura Byrne: Replying to "Invoices pulls some ..." True. Now that I look at the Users reports, but pull data from fees/fines, and loans, and other apps. 00:40:41 Laura Daniels: Tara is getting at a lot of the concerns I have also 00:41:37 Laura Daniels: FOLIO has a lot of reporting problems/gaps but I'm not sure in app reports will address the gaps adequately 00:42:23 Tara Barnett (Index Data): In other systems, where do “Lists” live? Externally, or within the screen with the functionality? 00:42:56 Laura Daniels: Externally, in my experience (i.e., separate module) 00:45:20 Martina Schildt: Reacted to "Thursday, September...." with 🙏 00:46:37 Maura Byrne: Yes, the proposal is really great. 00:47:01 Laura Daniels: Yes, I think a lot of the in app reports were short-term stopgap solutions 00:47:28 Tara Barnett (Index Data): So is there a future where instead of CSV in-app reports, there’s a link to pre-set lists in the lists app? 00:47:31 Owen Stephens: I think those specific need reports are a bit different - they have very specific requirements and are more easily defined 00:47:32 Kimberly Smith (MTSU): Replying to "Yes, I think a lot o..." I agree. I think these were created to get us to a list app or a reporting app. 00:47:54 Owen Stephens: I think what we’re talking about here is a much more generic “report” which is about “export the stuff on this screen” 00:47:58 Kimberly Smith (MTSU): Replying to "So is there a future..." Great Idea 00:48:53 Owen Stephens: Replying to "So is there a future..." I have to admit to concerns about the Lists app… I’ve no idea if it will work with the apps I work on 00:51:10 Owen Stephens: I have a question and a suggestion 00:54:40 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Can we define what consistent looks like so there’s a guide without mandating that the apps for which this is useless actually do this? 00:54:56 Owen Stephens: My instinct is that it would probably be on the easy end of the spectrum - just because we know that all that information in the screen is already available to the browser 00:55:33 Tara Barnett (Index Data): UUIDs are not on the screen though... 00:55:41 Owen Stephens: So an export of everything on screen should really be a possibility. But of course I could be wrong, maybe it’s not easy, or maybe ‘easy’ is still a lot of work 🙂 That’s why a discussion with stripes devs would be the way to establish this 00:55:56 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Reacted to "So an export of ever..." with ❤️ 00:57:12 Laura Daniels: Yes, the fundamental problem is the lack of robust reporting options for many implementers. 00:57:33 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Does it have to live in FOLIO? 00:57:51 Laura Daniels: Replying to "Does it have to live..." I don't think so. But it has to be widely available. 00:58:08 Maura Byrne: Reacted to "Yes, the fundamental..." with ➕ 00:58:14 Owen Stephens: Replying to "Does it have to live..." What are you thinking Tara? 00:58:20 Kimberly Smith (MTSU): We did not have access to MetaDb until May of this year. We have spent a lot of time and resources to come up with solutions prior to getting access. 00:58:24 Tara Barnett (Index Data): Replying to "Does it have to live..." ✨chrome add on✨ 00:58:50 Maura Byrne: Replying to "Does it have to live..." And another browser’s add-in as well? 00:59:01 Owen Stephens: In Agreemeents and Licenses we do see the Orders implementation as the “best in class” to copy 01:00:34 Owen Stephens: Reacted to "✨chrome add on✨" with 😃