00:02:15 Wayne Schneider: Is the Zoom link in the ics file for the "dedicated discussion" meetings incorrect? When I connected I got the message that the meeting had been ended 00:06:01 Khalilah (EBSCO): Apologies for the delay. 00:18:33 Craig McNally: If not the TC, then who? 00:19:49 Shelley Doljack: Apologies for being late. 00:30:57 Craig McNally: Early communication looks great on paper, but there are complicating factors... 1. It isn't always clear that a breaking change is needed until you start working on something. 2. When in the release cycle the work is being done may limit the window of opportunity 00:31:16 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "Early communication …" with 💯 00:34:43 Zak Burke: Reacted to "Early communication ..." with 💯 00:36:46 Thomas Trutt: Reacted to "Early communication ..." with 💯 00:36:55 Christie Thomas (she/her): What is RFC? 00:37:23 Christie Thomas (she/her): Thank you! 00:37:50 Thomas Trutt: What constitutes a significant change in this context though? 00:38:01 Craig McNally: Replying to "What is RFC?" https://folio-org.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/TC/pages/349634561/RFCs+Request+for+Comments 00:39:19 Wayne Schneider: Does it need to be a policy, or really guidelines or advice as Jenn is saying? 00:39:56 Marc Johnson: Replying to "Does it need to be a…" I don’t think there is much practical difference 00:40:15 Wayne Schneider: Policy suggests enforcement which of course we can't do. 00:40:56 Marc Johnson: Was it a false sense of urgency (from the team making the breaking changes perspective)? 00:41:02 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "Policy suggests enfo…" with 👍 00:41:35 Craig McNally: I think timing was a factor here. The announcement was made after the changes were made and a PR were opened. I'm not sure how much it would have helped if the conversation was started earlier, but it sounds like we're advocating for comms as early as possible 00:42:29 Craig McNally: Maybe that's something worth adjusting in the guidelines/policies... 00:48:23 Marc Johnson: I think that makes it even more important we make it explicit which team is responsible for what 00:53:07 Craig McNally: wrt "we" I've been doing that too Marc... habits 00:53:30 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "wrt "we" I've been d…" with 👍 00:54:20 Marc Johnson: Olamide is also correct about the discovery challenge 00:55:58 Craig McNally: Well both parties are asking for the TC to weigh in on this 00:59:01 Marc Johnson: Weigh in on whether the change is right or whether the way folks went about it is right? 01:01:54 Zak Burke: I feel like the request in the PR thread is, “Do I really have to make this decision?” And the answer can be “Sorry but yes, ya gotta deal with it.” That’s not a formal PR review (to Wayne’s point), but is still an endorsement. 01:03:27 Wayne Schneider: Even if the TC did put out guidelines at some point a timely reminder would seem to do no harm 01:03:45 Khalilah (EBSCO): Reacted to "Even if the TC did p..." with 👍 01:03:46 Craig McNally: Reacted to "Even if the TC did p..." with 👍 01:04:12 Khalilah (EBSCO): If POs can help with communication, please let me know. 01:04:12 Marc Johnson: Reacted to "Even if the TC did p…" with 👍