WEBVTT 1 00:02:10.820 --> 00:02:12.030 Kalli Mathios: Hi, Laura! 2 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:15.680 Laura Daniels: Hello! 3 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:16.920 Kalli Mathios: How are you? 4 00:02:17.630 --> 00:02:21.430 Laura Daniels: Oh… I'm okay for a Friday. 5 00:02:24.510 --> 00:02:27.490 Kalli Mathios: Similar. I feel a similar vibe. 6 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:38.830 Laura Daniels: I have been thinking all week that today I was going to have time and energy to get caught up on so many things, and I'm… 7 00:02:40.450 --> 00:02:42.460 Laura Daniels: I'm less hopeful. 8 00:02:46.720 --> 00:02:48.760 Charlotte Whitt: Hi, Charlotte! Hello! 9 00:02:49.140 --> 00:02:57.080 Kalli Mathios: I'm only starting my day, but that was also my hope for my day, so we'll see how it goes in a few hours. 10 00:02:58.050 --> 00:03:02.999 Laura Daniels: I'm probably going to drop off a few minutes early because I'm leading a focus group 11 00:03:03.260 --> 00:03:06.520 Laura Daniels: Right? The next hour after this. 12 00:03:06.760 --> 00:03:15.199 Kalli Mathios: Okay, sounds good. I… I'm not sure how long we'll be today also, but let me get our notes up, and I'm seeing… 13 00:03:16.050 --> 00:03:25.030 Kalli Mathios: Sometimes I'm ahead of the curve with the early morning starts, and I can check on the Slack beforehand, but I did not. 14 00:03:25.030 --> 00:03:25.460 Laura Daniels: Yet. 15 00:03:25.460 --> 00:03:28.800 Kalli Mathios: So I see Alvaro has some new screenshots for us. 16 00:03:30.690 --> 00:03:31.520 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Hmm, yeah. 17 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:32.310 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Hello. 18 00:03:32.310 --> 00:03:34.239 Kalli Mathios: Oh, hi! How are you? 19 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:35.060 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Whoa. 20 00:03:35.580 --> 00:03:37.259 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Look fine, look fine. 21 00:03:37.780 --> 00:03:38.990 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: How about you? 22 00:03:39.470 --> 00:03:42.169 Kalli Mathios: Good, good. Just getting, 23 00:03:42.940 --> 00:03:53.809 Kalli Mathios: organized here. So, I saw the… the new screenshots in the Slack. Should I add those to our notes so people can look at them later? 24 00:03:55.620 --> 00:03:58.750 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, yeah, they have a small… 25 00:03:59.320 --> 00:04:04.710 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: detail. There's a field that is repeated in the first image. 26 00:04:05.070 --> 00:04:10.320 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: But, it was just, just… a slip. 27 00:04:10.700 --> 00:04:12.290 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: It's not supposed to be like that. 28 00:04:12.670 --> 00:04:15.739 Kalli Mathios: I see, I see here, cool. This looks great! 29 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:19.399 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Great. Awesome. 30 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:23.350 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 31 00:04:23.530 --> 00:04:24.930 Kalli Mathios: So I'll share my screen. 32 00:04:24.930 --> 00:04:25.630 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: service. 33 00:04:31.610 --> 00:04:32.550 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 34 00:04:34.020 --> 00:04:40.730 Kalli Mathios: So… Just a few housekeeping items. We… 35 00:04:41.020 --> 00:04:54.030 Kalli Mathios: If you were not here at our last meeting, thank you again, Charlotte, for creating our SIG calendar. I just wanted to mention that I had some dates incorrect in the coming weeks, so I updated them. 36 00:04:54.110 --> 00:05:05.289 Kalli Mathios: And this should be correct. I think I may, if I can find the time, add a column to say whether it's a Friday or a Tuesday meeting. That sort of helps me organize what time it's happening at. 37 00:05:05.310 --> 00:05:18.009 Kalli Mathios: And might help me keep the dates a little bit better, but I think the rest of the year looked good. So, feel free to use this as a reference. I added the link data discovery SIG to April 10th. 38 00:05:18.020 --> 00:05:35.499 Kalli Mathios: If you did not catch that in Slack, they reached out to us about a crossover meeting. They were particularly interested in the Link Data app and its use of Discovery, but it might be a good opportunity for us to talk about all the different ways we might envision Discovery working with, linked data and folio. 39 00:05:36.320 --> 00:05:46.659 Kalli Mathios: Otherwise, our calendar is rather open and sort of rolling based on the previous discussion. If there is a topic that you would like to cover. 40 00:05:46.660 --> 00:05:59.629 Kalli Mathios: We can set a particular date and time for that, or if there are things people already know they want to discuss in future meetings, you can directly edit this, or ask me to drop it, and I'd be happy to do that. 41 00:06:02.090 --> 00:06:06.660 Charlotte Whitt: Mmm… I wonder… so we have the column note taker? 42 00:06:06.780 --> 00:06:21.620 Charlotte Whitt: In the PC, we, we simply, we are all, kind of, you know, it's, rolling, so all of us are, being the note-taker, but we fill in our own name, so we then… 43 00:06:21.850 --> 00:06:28.730 Charlotte Whitt: coordinate if there's meetings we are not attending, and so… so maybe we could… you could simply ask us 44 00:06:28.890 --> 00:06:30.070 Charlotte Whitt: Please. 45 00:06:30.170 --> 00:06:39.169 Charlotte Whitt: Fill in your name as note-taker two, three times this year, and then we are, you know, have that, 46 00:06:39.420 --> 00:06:44.390 Charlotte Whitt: plan for, and it's not something you as a convener need to kind of 47 00:06:44.590 --> 00:06:48.189 Charlotte Whitt: Ask us, who can… who can do the notes today. 48 00:06:48.470 --> 00:06:58.100 Kalli Mathios: That sounds like a great plan. Let me add a note to our notes, about that. A note to our notes. So, 49 00:06:59.060 --> 00:07:03.230 Kalli Mathios: In the future… Or I'll say… 50 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.950 Kalli Mathios: Please add your name to a few rows in the notetaker column. 51 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:13.940 Kalli Mathios: Alright. 52 00:07:14.440 --> 00:07:15.480 Kalli Mathios: Calendar. 53 00:07:15.730 --> 00:07:25.009 Kalli Mathios: And we can revisit that at our next meeting, too, and make sure we did it. That would help a lot. Sometimes I try to do both, but there are many times where it's just not possible. 54 00:07:25.010 --> 00:07:27.189 Charlotte Whitt: Well, we can help each other. It's… 55 00:07:27.190 --> 00:07:28.220 Kalli Mathios: Yeah. 56 00:07:28.840 --> 00:07:32.780 Kalli Mathios: That's a great… thank you for pointing it out, I had kind of forgotten about that call. 57 00:07:35.590 --> 00:07:44.149 Kalli Mathios: mentioned the Discovery SIG, and maybe if we have time today, we can talk a little bit about that. I just wanted to check in one more time. I… 58 00:07:44.390 --> 00:07:49.730 Kalli Mathios: I don't know exactly what our next steps should be with this document. 59 00:07:50.150 --> 00:07:59.939 Kalli Mathios: I don't feel like we have everyone represented who typically attends. Libris is missing from this. I know they're really busy right now. I don't know if… 60 00:08:00.320 --> 00:08:07.980 Kalli Mathios: like, EBSCO has… Any opinions on this, Alvaro? If, like, there are certain places you would not? 61 00:08:08.280 --> 00:08:13.019 Kalli Mathios: advocate for URIs, or certain places you would like to use them. 62 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:20.429 Kalli Mathios: and Share VD have filled this out, but I don't want to make assumptions for the whole group based on 63 00:08:20.540 --> 00:08:23.599 Kalli Mathios: Awesome. I know Tamika filled it out. 64 00:08:24.810 --> 00:08:29.020 Kalli Mathios: And actually, Nancy, I see you're here now. Hi, I don't know if we're done, I think… 65 00:08:29.450 --> 00:08:31.370 Kalli Mathios: I think we are, but… 66 00:08:32.940 --> 00:08:35.789 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Oh, I will… I will need to check about this. 67 00:08:35.789 --> 00:08:36.780 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 68 00:08:38.289 --> 00:08:41.769 Charlotte Whitt: The one thing, we may be in… 69 00:08:42.490 --> 00:08:55.810 Charlotte Whitt: So, one thing we maybe could discuss in our group is where we envision it to be, added in the UI. 70 00:08:56.100 --> 00:09:01.520 Charlotte Whitt: Because, now, and probably the next… 71 00:09:01.620 --> 00:09:12.619 Charlotte Whitt: 5, 8 years, it will only be libraries who are using linked data, who is really interested in, and as long as we don't have these 72 00:09:12.870 --> 00:09:14.720 Charlotte Whitt: customizable… 73 00:09:14.850 --> 00:09:28.740 Charlotte Whitt: display of the instance record, it probably will make, most folio libraries annoyed if suddenly we have so many new data properties 74 00:09:28.930 --> 00:09:34.819 Charlotte Whitt: In the… so… but maybe… so, maybe we should start talk about… 75 00:09:35.450 --> 00:09:40.259 Charlotte Whitt: Where can we see it being posted in the UI? 76 00:09:40.260 --> 00:09:40.910 Kalli Mathios: Boy. 77 00:09:41.210 --> 00:09:55.820 Charlotte Whitt: As a first phase solution for a solution longer term, and third option could be when we finally have this customizable 78 00:09:56.210 --> 00:10:02.579 Charlotte Whitt: view, where each library can define, I want to see these properties, don't want to see the rest. 79 00:10:02.780 --> 00:10:03.500 Kalli Mathios: Yeah. 80 00:10:04.490 --> 00:10:12.790 Kalli Mathios: Yeah, that's a great point. It came up with the instant source ID. There are some people, like, well, if that's blank, then… 81 00:10:14.020 --> 00:10:18.010 Kalli Mathios: I don't know, it didn't make sense for everyone, so that… Great idea. 82 00:10:18.180 --> 00:10:29.380 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, I mean, part of the instant source ID, too, is it made it so people who had macros in Macro Express had to redo all their macros, that was the, because it was an extra 83 00:10:29.730 --> 00:10:32.360 Nancy Lorimer: tab set involved. 84 00:10:33.250 --> 00:10:34.330 Kalli Mathios: Yeah. 85 00:10:40.920 --> 00:10:55.980 Charlotte Whitt: And then I think the next step could be to present it for the MMSIC, because they are responsible for the… for the inventory app. And, of course, we should, yeah. 86 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:07.459 Charlotte Whitt: maybe it would be a good idea to have Ryan Taylor, informed before we have a talk with Ryan Taylor, who is the PO for… 87 00:11:07.680 --> 00:11:09.250 Charlotte Whitt: for inventory. 88 00:11:15.450 --> 00:11:16.480 Kalli Mathios: That sounds good. 89 00:11:17.250 --> 00:11:21.649 Kalli Mathios: Perhaps I will send one more message… 90 00:11:22.160 --> 00:11:26.930 Kalli Mathios: to the Slack, asking if people are invested in this to fill it out, and if 91 00:11:27.330 --> 00:11:32.430 Kalli Mathios: If they don't, then I can just assume that they are… this is not a high priority for them, perhaps. 92 00:11:34.630 --> 00:11:38.860 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, it would be really good to get Andreas to do it, though, because… yeah. 93 00:11:40.090 --> 00:11:42.700 Kalli Mathios: And, of course, all room. 94 00:11:42.900 --> 00:11:51.249 Charlotte Whitt: Yeah. But then tech, Andreas, and the ones who are active in our, 95 00:11:51.420 --> 00:11:53.909 Charlotte Whitt: Our sick, if they can. 96 00:11:54.580 --> 00:12:00.739 Charlotte Whitt: Fill it in, or give a reply that. Not… not now. 97 00:12:01.570 --> 00:12:04.700 Kalli Mathios: And Cornell, I see you're missing. That would be great. Oh, okay. 98 00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:20.539 Laura Daniels: I actually had… I had started, and then I realized that I'm not convinced we actually have use cases where we want URIs in the instance, so I took us out, but Jen… Jen, you and I should probably talk about this with… 99 00:12:21.030 --> 00:12:26.319 Laura Daniels: with a few colleagues, and I don't want it just to be my assumptions. 100 00:12:29.250 --> 00:12:37.510 Kalli Mathios: That sounds great. And that's helpful to know, too, if it's… if it's dropped off, a priority. 101 00:12:38.510 --> 00:12:41.379 Nancy Lorimer: Didn't you introduce it in the first place? 102 00:12:41.380 --> 00:12:45.250 Laura Daniels: I did because it was something that others were asking for. 103 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:54.369 Charlotte Whitt: So, Kelly, you could maybe do a little, action menu, where we simply list 104 00:12:54.470 --> 00:13:05.689 Charlotte Whitt: all who has either decided to fill in or not fill in. So, then you… we can check it off, and then… 105 00:13:05.990 --> 00:13:06.810 Charlotte Whitt: Yeah. 106 00:13:07.430 --> 00:13:10.459 Charlotte Whitt: It will be quick to see. 107 00:13:11.300 --> 00:13:13.969 Charlotte Whitt: When all input… I spoke both. 108 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.249 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, I want to say that, 109 00:13:17.250 --> 00:13:20.460 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: It's good that you, talked with Ryan. 110 00:13:20.660 --> 00:13:28.549 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Because, at least in the eyes that we are… naturally, we are using URIS for everything, so… 111 00:13:28.850 --> 00:13:35.860 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I think he's the one to make a… The call about inventory. 112 00:13:37.130 --> 00:13:43.330 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: In fact, we adapt to what is happening in inventory, so… 113 00:13:43.900 --> 00:13:44.720 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 114 00:13:45.560 --> 00:13:46.140 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah. 115 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:53.089 Nancy Lorimer: I would say, though, 116 00:13:54.420 --> 00:13:57.130 Nancy Lorimer: Even those who are not filling it out? 117 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:05.300 Nancy Lorimer: I think we should have a note whether they support this idea or not, even if they don't have a use case. 118 00:14:05.400 --> 00:14:09.319 Nancy Lorimer: For their own particular institution at this time. 119 00:14:10.810 --> 00:14:13.170 Nancy Lorimer: Laura? 120 00:14:14.670 --> 00:14:18.180 Laura Daniels: I can only speak for myself, not Cornell right now. 121 00:14:18.510 --> 00:14:20.089 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, I realize, but I mean… 122 00:14:20.290 --> 00:14:33.459 Laura Daniels: So… so… but I'm assuming that we… we support it. I… I absolutely support it, I just don't want to prioritize, elements when I… we don't have any use cases. 123 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:38.470 Laura Daniels: But if others have use cases, I absolutely support. 124 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:44.860 Nancy Lorimer: Right, okay. And, I mean, it would be nice if Cornell could say that, if, you know… 125 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:53.980 Nancy Lorimer: and others. I'm not meaning to stick it on you, but it just seems, 126 00:14:55.090 --> 00:14:59.569 Nancy Lorimer: You know, because it is a sort of a major change to inventory in some ways. 127 00:14:59.780 --> 00:15:04.540 Nancy Lorimer: That it would be nice to, know if… 128 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:10.670 Nancy Lorimer: There are people who, you know, don't see themselves making use of it at this time, but… 129 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:15.830 Nancy Lorimer: Understand the reasoning behind it, and… Therefore, support. 130 00:15:16.730 --> 00:15:18.960 Nancy Lorimer: The ability of others to do so. 131 00:15:28.990 --> 00:15:30.689 Kalli Mathios: Cool. That sounds good. 132 00:15:32.370 --> 00:15:37.160 Kalli Mathios: And that's helpful, thank you for thinking about… I just didn't want that doc to… 133 00:15:40.010 --> 00:15:43.759 Kalli Mathios: Vanish in relevance or… or not be finished. 134 00:15:43.910 --> 00:15:47.150 Kalli Mathios: Any other housekeeping items? 135 00:15:50.560 --> 00:15:56.050 Kalli Mathios: Before we move into the settings page, and then we have a second item to talk about WolfCom planning. 136 00:15:58.170 --> 00:16:00.329 Kalli Mathios: Okay, so I just wanted to check in. 137 00:16:00.470 --> 00:16:04.160 Kalli Mathios: on this page, for… 138 00:16:06.470 --> 00:16:14.610 Kalli Mathios: the linked tickets here in the title, setting page requirements. I think we were good on the… 139 00:16:15.680 --> 00:16:24.079 Kalli Mathios: fields being filled in for the most part. I do still see that marva that is not blue core marva is empty. 140 00:16:24.650 --> 00:16:33.059 Kalli Mathios: maybe that's fine. I don't know exactly who I might nudge to help fill that out, but I added screenshots for 141 00:16:33.290 --> 00:16:39.669 Kalli Mathios: the Blue Core editors, and also Synopia… what we're calling Synopia Classic. 142 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:49.230 Kalli Mathios: There are screen dumps, I think, missing from the Everyone else. Yeah. So… 143 00:16:49.230 --> 00:16:51.430 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I will add ours today, sorry. 144 00:16:51.630 --> 00:16:53.239 Kalli Mathios: That's okay, no, no, go ahead. 145 00:16:56.640 --> 00:17:02.050 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Oh, no, no, I just wanted to say that we, I will add, from the link data editor today. 146 00:17:02.560 --> 00:17:03.860 Kalli Mathios: Okay, cool. 147 00:17:04.829 --> 00:17:07.919 Kalli Mathios: Is there anything else you all need from us for this? 148 00:17:08.460 --> 00:17:11.029 Kalli Mathios: Document except for the screenshots? 149 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:17.570 Kalli Mathios: No? Okay, awesome. 150 00:17:18.859 --> 00:17:23.370 Kalli Mathios: Yeah, okay, cool. So, I'm gonna close that. 151 00:17:23.530 --> 00:17:24.849 Kalli Mathios: And… 152 00:17:26.470 --> 00:17:46.040 Charlotte Whitt: the new mockups you have shared, Alvaro. So, I see there's still some labels missing, so, which we have in the spreadsheet. So, it's not just a duplicate of instant source label, but also, 153 00:17:46.100 --> 00:17:50.929 Charlotte Whitt: We had some… some more in… in the settings page, if you… 154 00:17:51.130 --> 00:17:54.569 Charlotte Whitt: Will you open it again? Yeah, okay, you will double check. 155 00:17:54.570 --> 00:17:59.190 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I will add it. 156 00:17:59.410 --> 00:18:00.730 Charlotte Whitt: Okay, excellent, thanks. 157 00:18:00.730 --> 00:18:01.759 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yes, jeez. 158 00:18:09.790 --> 00:18:10.819 Kalli Mathios: Okay, great. 159 00:18:11.080 --> 00:18:21.790 Kalli Mathios: Super. And then, Nancy and I had started talking a little bit about WolfCom planning, and we saw, Tiziana, your note, that it's also on your mind, so… 160 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.520 Kalli Mathios: How do we feel about WolfCon this year? What… 161 00:18:26.010 --> 00:18:29.340 Kalli Mathios: might we like to do? . 162 00:18:31.530 --> 00:18:39.240 Nancy Lorimer: Actually, I think I'd like to ask first who here has any possibility of going to WolfCon. 163 00:18:42.390 --> 00:18:53.640 Charlotte Whitt: So, I hope I'm going, and I asked today if I could get a final confirmation from, from Lynn, our CEO. 164 00:18:55.070 --> 00:18:57.869 Laura Daniels: I am going to… I'm going to ask… 165 00:18:58.040 --> 00:19:08.920 Laura Daniels: for, institutional support and offer to pay my travel fare myself and turn it into a vacation afterward. So I am tentative. 166 00:19:10.070 --> 00:19:16.699 Laura Daniels: Because it is… It's complicated how it gets decided, who can and can't go. 167 00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:25.220 Nancy Lorimer: Well, yeah, trust me, it's complicated, yes. Coming from the West Coast to Europe is also… it's… 168 00:19:26.090 --> 00:19:28.590 Nancy Lorimer: It's doubly complicated, 169 00:19:28.690 --> 00:19:41.370 Nancy Lorimer: I… I'm hoping Callie will be going. I think I probably will not… it's not like… I don't think both of us can go, because I have other people that have to go. So, 170 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:50.020 Nancy Lorimer: I'll go to bit framing Europe. You know, that's sort of how, 171 00:19:50.560 --> 00:19:53.910 Nancy Lorimer: Alvaro, are you gonna be able to go? 172 00:19:54.330 --> 00:19:55.140 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah. 173 00:19:55.250 --> 00:19:58.200 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I will possibly be going, yeah. 174 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.909 Nancy Lorimer: Okay, I suspect Andreas will be there. 175 00:20:02.250 --> 00:20:20.199 Charlotte Whitt: Yeah, that's at least his plan, what I've heard. Andreas is also planning to do, a presentation on, Lipres integration with Folio. Now, they have, 176 00:20:20.760 --> 00:20:32.320 Charlotte Whitt: this is up and running. So, so, that presentation will be… Probably partly, also beepring. 177 00:20:32.820 --> 00:20:33.890 Charlotte Whitt: Relevant. 178 00:20:34.540 --> 00:20:35.610 Nancy Lorimer: Right. 179 00:20:38.470 --> 00:20:39.260 Kalli Mathios: Great. 180 00:20:42.790 --> 00:20:44.719 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I will be presenting, too. 181 00:20:46.300 --> 00:20:53.780 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't know about the link that I eat, because by then, we'll have the premium version complete, so… 182 00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:58.599 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't need to present about that. 183 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:00.170 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 184 00:21:00.710 --> 00:21:03.630 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, I saw your hand, Tiziana. 185 00:21:05.500 --> 00:21:08.140 Nancy Lorimer: I was pretty sure you were going to be going, but, 186 00:21:09.310 --> 00:21:13.069 Nancy Lorimer: You're gonna have a very busy couple months in there. 187 00:21:15.730 --> 00:21:23.530 Nancy Lorimer: It's, like, all of the things that come up very close together this year, so it's, 188 00:21:27.130 --> 00:21:31.870 Nancy Lorimer: I mean, it's not like I wouldn't like to go to Prague, you know, but… 189 00:21:32.070 --> 00:21:34.249 Nancy Lorimer: I'm not sure we can… 190 00:21:34.380 --> 00:21:36.700 Nancy Lorimer: Pull that amount of funding itself. 191 00:21:39.470 --> 00:21:45.700 Nancy Lorimer: as I said, the problem is, if I go, I prevent some of my staff from going, probably, so it's… 192 00:21:46.520 --> 00:21:49.200 Nancy Lorimer: You know, that's a trade-off. 193 00:21:53.890 --> 00:21:58.779 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): I was thinking to go also because it's very close to Italy, Prague. 194 00:21:58.780 --> 00:22:02.739 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, you can take the train, right? Yeah. 195 00:22:02.740 --> 00:22:09.329 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Perhaps not the train, it's easier to go with airplane, but anyway, it's very closed. 196 00:22:09.390 --> 00:22:22.970 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): And, so, yes, my impression was to go, but as company, we… we were asking, if it's good to… 197 00:22:23.170 --> 00:22:38.920 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): join the meeting also in another way, for example, as sponsor, because they asked us, so it's for this reason that I underlined this topic in the agenda, so that I can try to arrange as a group, or 198 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:45.019 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): I don't know, as a chef family in another, 199 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:56.249 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Profile, but, but, is, is very easy for us this year, so we want to take the occasion of this, so close, event. 200 00:22:57.420 --> 00:23:05.929 Charlotte Whitt: I was in Prague last week with my daughter, and it's… I have never been there before. It was such a lovely experience. 201 00:23:05.930 --> 00:23:06.310 Kalli Mathios: It's. 202 00:23:07.020 --> 00:23:11.819 Charlotte Whitt: Old, beautiful, very clean, very polite. 203 00:23:11.820 --> 00:23:12.220 Nancy Lorimer: Okay. 204 00:23:12.220 --> 00:23:13.970 Charlotte Whitt: Cool. It's so awesome. 205 00:23:14.910 --> 00:23:22.090 Charlotte Whitt: you know, yeah, it's… Well, at least I get to go to Barcelona, so it's okay. 206 00:23:23.950 --> 00:23:26.790 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): We are trying to convince Nancy to come. 207 00:23:27.470 --> 00:23:28.210 Charlotte Whitt: Yeah. 208 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:35.899 Nancy Lorimer: Well, you never know. That might turn up. But, 209 00:23:37.540 --> 00:23:42.600 Nancy Lorimer: Okay. So, I mean, there's sort of, like, there's a… 210 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:50.350 Nancy Lorimer: critical mass of people that are likely to be there. That's… that's kind of… So, it… 211 00:23:53.070 --> 00:24:00.239 Nancy Lorimer: Do we want to have, you know, a… sort of a working meeting, or a, 212 00:24:01.390 --> 00:24:08.040 Nancy Lorimer: you know, brainstorming meeting there, when we're actually… people are actually in person, or, 213 00:24:08.230 --> 00:24:15.490 Nancy Lorimer: I don't… I think we're probably done with workshops for the moment, until we have, something further. 214 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:22.330 Laura Daniels: My understanding is that working meetings are discouraged in general. 215 00:24:22.330 --> 00:24:23.870 Nancy Lorimer: Okay. 216 00:24:25.790 --> 00:24:26.510 Nancy Lorimer: Hmm. 217 00:24:26.980 --> 00:24:37.099 Charlotte Whitt: So, if our meeting could be at the end of the conference, it could be then kind of a… 218 00:24:37.340 --> 00:24:51.630 Charlotte Whitt: you know, have a talk of all the individual, presentations, and, while everything are fresh in mind and, inspired by, all the new talk, we could, 219 00:24:53.390 --> 00:25:00.619 Charlotte Whitt: You know, synthesize it in our context, and, 220 00:25:00.970 --> 00:25:04.349 Charlotte Whitt: plan, what is follow-up. So it's… it's not… 221 00:25:04.470 --> 00:25:13.079 Charlotte Whitt: You know, work meeting, brainstorming, but it is kind of, you know, What does our sick make? 222 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:21.489 Charlotte Whitt: Make out of all of these new information and this brand new status on everything. 223 00:25:26.910 --> 00:25:36.869 Nancy Lorimer: But, I mean, a lot of you would… all of you would be having to do some real work during the conference and make sure we get to a number of things, so, 224 00:25:37.170 --> 00:25:46.449 Nancy Lorimer: But, it would make it good for your, your application, Laura, because that can help you. 225 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:51.630 Nancy Lorimer: I bet you really wouldn't be able to synthesize everything when you got back. 226 00:25:51.630 --> 00:25:55.640 Laura Daniels: Unfortunately, a lot of it comes down to who else is going. 227 00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.949 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, I know, I know, trust me. 228 00:25:58.950 --> 00:26:03.560 Laura Daniels: And the decision makers are people that, 229 00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:08.939 Laura Daniels: Well, it's neither here nor there, but we'll see. 230 00:26:12.730 --> 00:26:17.820 Kalli Mathios: I believe a panel style is one of the options in the proposal form. 231 00:26:17.950 --> 00:26:24.279 Kalli Mathios: I got halfway through it, starting something for us, and then I thought, I have no idea what I'm filling out yet, actually. 232 00:26:24.550 --> 00:26:29.420 Kalli Mathios: So that's a… that's definitely an option. 233 00:26:31.290 --> 00:26:44.420 Laura Daniels: And the panel is nice, if we have some people who are there in person and some who are remote, we could still have, I think, a productive panel. 234 00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:48.550 Kalli Mathios: Yeah, last year that worked really well for the Blue Cora talk. 235 00:26:49.120 --> 00:26:53.440 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, but it's nice to have them in person as much as possible. 236 00:26:53.710 --> 00:26:54.100 Kalli Mathios: And… 237 00:26:54.100 --> 00:26:56.070 Nancy Lorimer: And, I mean… 238 00:26:57.520 --> 00:27:08.379 Nancy Lorimer: the likelihood, with the time zone difference, the likelihood of my being able to, say, participate, say, might be low, just because the number of talks I'll have been able to get to. 239 00:27:08.830 --> 00:27:18.109 Nancy Lorimer: We'll be greatly, diminished, let's say. But that's okay. The rest of you can do it. 240 00:27:27.660 --> 00:27:30.100 Nancy Lorimer: Who knows? Things might change. 241 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.090 Nancy Lorimer: Anyhow. 242 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:42.849 Kalli Mathios: Tiziana, does that help? If we do a panel discussion, does that help you answer your question? 243 00:27:43.830 --> 00:27:59.340 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Yes, I was thinking, my interest is not to… from my side, to duplicate a presentation, for example, so not propose something as… 244 00:27:59.340 --> 00:28:18.979 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): chef family, so something that, demo the editor in a session, and after, having the meeting with our group. My interest is, to have one presentation, one effort that, and 245 00:28:19.070 --> 00:28:25.559 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): I prefer to do something with you, so within the group, not as alone. 246 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:26.400 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 247 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:41.039 Nancy Lorimer: Okay, I think that makes a lot of sense. And I think if we have this panel like this about the conference synthesis, I think also it would be… could start with sort of an overview of the 248 00:28:41.790 --> 00:28:45.410 Nancy Lorimer: what the linked open day with SIG has been doing. 249 00:28:45.580 --> 00:28:52.130 Nancy Lorimer: And what it aims for, you know, kind of thing, to, you know, to couch, and then, you know, 250 00:28:53.460 --> 00:29:03.240 Nancy Lorimer: And maybe even, you know, just sort of a slight discussion of the difficulties of of… 251 00:29:04.860 --> 00:29:06.650 Nancy Lorimer: You know. 252 00:29:08.380 --> 00:29:22.789 Nancy Lorimer: integrating the markness of folio with linked data, and, you know, I mean, the problems we are trying to… we are… we are looking at, and then, you know, then… then sort of have a panel and, you know, okay. 253 00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:36.400 Nancy Lorimer: you know, how is the conference, you know, things going on at the conference? Is it, you know, helping Eric and green us, or whatever kind of thing, make it in terms of our group? Very much so, so we have a bit more of an identity, perhaps? 254 00:29:36.670 --> 00:29:37.410 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Yeah. 255 00:29:38.650 --> 00:29:41.820 Nancy Lorimer: Is that what you're thinking, Tiziana, in a way? 256 00:29:41.990 --> 00:30:04.070 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Yes, yes, because in this way, we can also have the occasion to shortly demo something, no, or to speak about something, but from our side. But what is important, I think, is to underline as a group which kind of challenge, which kind of expectations we have. 257 00:30:04.070 --> 00:30:07.690 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): To make better this integration with polio. 258 00:30:07.690 --> 00:30:24.409 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): So not to stay focused on what, for example, J-Clicket worked, how J-Clicket worked. But okay, we are doing something with J-Clicket folio, but which kind of challenges or additional problems we are having in 259 00:30:24.410 --> 00:30:34.389 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): going ahead with the new step to really realize this integration, this full integration. 260 00:30:34.390 --> 00:30:41.779 Nancy Lorimer: and… And why we've been adding the… wanting to add these things to inventory that are annoying people slightly. 261 00:30:41.780 --> 00:30:42.710 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Exactly, exactly. 262 00:30:43.560 --> 00:31:02.349 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): So, our experience could be just an example of what we are doing, but the focus should be on the group, so what we expect as group, why we are doing this, and so more focus on the whole group. Even if each of us. 263 00:31:02.350 --> 00:31:04.540 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Can use the experience. 264 00:31:06.910 --> 00:31:08.780 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Oh, exactly. 265 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:14.079 Laura Daniels: I don't mean entirely, but I, I mean, we need to be able. 266 00:31:14.080 --> 00:31:18.290 Nancy Lorimer: To have it as an equal… to be an equal alternative. 267 00:31:18.290 --> 00:31:26.350 Laura Daniels: alternative, but we also need to be able to create an instance record with MARC data, and then get the MARC data out of there. 268 00:31:27.210 --> 00:31:32.889 Laura Daniels: And or overlay it with something that has a different source, you know? 269 00:31:33.310 --> 00:31:37.250 Laura Daniels: Exactly, it's not just for linked data, but… 270 00:31:37.410 --> 00:31:37.960 Kalli Mathios: Mmm. 271 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:43.040 Laura Daniels: It's one of many… linked data is one of the reasons we need this. 272 00:31:44.850 --> 00:31:46.750 Laura Daniels: And maybe we can find… 273 00:31:46.750 --> 00:31:48.040 Nancy Lorimer: So we can identify it. 274 00:31:48.040 --> 00:31:48.900 Laura Daniels: allies. 275 00:31:49.370 --> 00:31:54.739 Nancy Lorimer: Portfolio to live up to its, its own description. 276 00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:56.560 Laura Daniels: for folio to really work. 277 00:31:56.850 --> 00:32:01.219 Nancy Lorimer: Well, for it to live up to its own description as format neutral. 278 00:32:03.500 --> 00:32:10.870 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: And there's some other details, like… For instance, 279 00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:21.290 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: In the editor, we plan this year to start implementing items and holdings, and that relates to users, and circulation, and orders. 280 00:32:21.490 --> 00:32:29.140 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: So, that's… That… I guess that would involve a bigger discussion. 281 00:32:29.800 --> 00:32:34.689 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: For later, because… How do we manage all that? 282 00:32:35.150 --> 00:32:40.930 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: We'll be using, still, XML internally? 283 00:32:41.350 --> 00:32:42.249 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I don't know. 284 00:32:43.900 --> 00:32:46.100 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: That's something for the future, I guess. 285 00:32:46.620 --> 00:32:48.229 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Like, 6 months? 286 00:32:49.580 --> 00:32:53.340 Kalli Mathios: Yeah, that's a good topic idea. Expanded entities. 287 00:32:54.270 --> 00:32:55.219 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, exactly. 288 00:32:55.220 --> 00:33:01.529 Kalli Mathios: As a challenge, yeah. Or opportunity, we can decide how we want to frame everything. 289 00:33:02.760 --> 00:33:04.800 Kalli Mathios: Or do maybe a little bit of both. 290 00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:11.179 Jenn Colt: Sorry, is it okay to ask for clarification? I heard holdings and items, but I'm not sure what it means in this context. 291 00:33:11.700 --> 00:33:12.390 Jenn Colt: like… 292 00:33:14.710 --> 00:33:25.520 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Well, at least within the… within, the… within Folio, specifically the link data app. 293 00:33:25.660 --> 00:33:35.680 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: So far, currently, it manages, only works on instances, now it's expanded to huffs. 294 00:33:35.790 --> 00:33:39.089 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: And, it will be authorities very soon. 295 00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:44.409 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: But, later this year? 296 00:33:44.750 --> 00:33:46.779 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Like, the second half? 297 00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:59.319 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: We will start, Exploring how to implement items and holdings, meaning, that if you… 298 00:33:59.870 --> 00:34:04.880 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: have a… an instance, you have the… 299 00:34:05.010 --> 00:34:14.350 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: The physical version of the instance, like the actual item in your hand, with the barcode and all that. 300 00:34:14.520 --> 00:34:23.370 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: and, circulation information. Managed by, linked data. 301 00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:29.520 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: So, that's the item part, and the holding part is, 302 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:42.229 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Basically, the library, sub-library, or the circulation unit, or the collection where that item belongs to. 303 00:34:43.139 --> 00:34:46.059 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: okay, I get that. 304 00:34:46.060 --> 00:34:49.380 Jenn Colt: I'm a noob, I didn't really realize that linked data would 305 00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:53.579 Jenn Colt: Be involved with things like barcodes and stuff. 306 00:34:54.429 --> 00:35:03.370 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, I mean… Since we started implementing BFrame, BFrame also 307 00:35:05.210 --> 00:35:12.309 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: also takes care of that part. So, yeah, we're implementing the whole model. 308 00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:22.649 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, I think, this is just showing there's also… there are two different sort of models of doing it, and, 309 00:35:23.430 --> 00:35:29.920 Nancy Lorimer: And it's good to have both around, certainly, too, so… 310 00:35:31.210 --> 00:35:40.670 Nancy Lorimer: So yeah, it's… both… both are possible, it's just, there's two different choices about which way you go, so… 311 00:35:41.550 --> 00:35:49.539 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, sorry, Nelsi, yeah, I've also been thinking about that, like, 312 00:35:50.270 --> 00:35:58.289 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: We're implementing one, but there should be a way to… to be able to use more than that. 313 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.150 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: I'm glad that solves… yeah. 314 00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:09.020 Nancy Lorimer: Right, and I mean, the big thing is to keep folio as flexible as possible, while still working. 315 00:36:09.020 --> 00:36:10.980 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: Yeah, gift. 316 00:36:21.270 --> 00:36:23.190 Kalli Mathios: So, it sounds like… 317 00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:33.289 Nancy Lorimer: Yeah, that panel could… I mean, yeah, I mean, we could also just, you know, talk a little bit about the different models of linked data that are… that are… 318 00:36:34.070 --> 00:36:37.510 Nancy Lorimer: Gelling in folio, let's say. 319 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:42.920 Nancy Lorimer: As part of the intro, and then… 320 00:36:44.170 --> 00:36:46.909 Nancy Lorimer: You know, we could have sort of a… 321 00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:50.969 Nancy Lorimer: That, and then the panel kind of thing, too. 322 00:36:52.490 --> 00:36:58.680 Nancy Lorimer: To make… to round… to keep it a round, sort of, meaning, kind of thing. 323 00:36:59.540 --> 00:37:19.159 Kalli Mathios: Yeah, I like this idea. In the previous years, we've done very group-centric, insular, work and sharing within each other, but oftentimes I feel like folks ask, well, what's the linked data SIG working on? And this will be a really nice opportunity for people in other SIGs to learn what we've been doing and the direction of the work. 324 00:37:19.160 --> 00:37:24.849 Kalli Mathios: Give them a chance to ask questions and get excited, and maybe get some new participants, too. 325 00:37:28.890 --> 00:37:37.589 Kalli Mathios: Sometimes things seem like old hat to me, like, oh, well, we've been talking about this for so long, but if you're not part of these groups, you may not know, 326 00:37:39.820 --> 00:37:42.260 Kalli Mathios: All these different facets of the work. 327 00:37:50.510 --> 00:37:53.599 Kalli Mathios: So, in our next meeting, should we start drafting… 328 00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:58.110 Kalli Mathios: Does anyone know offhand the deadline? I think it's soon. 329 00:37:58.130 --> 00:38:00.550 Charlotte Whitt: It's March 25. 330 00:38:00.790 --> 00:38:01.450 Kalli Mathios: Yeah… 331 00:38:01.450 --> 00:38:09.969 Charlotte Whitt: So… so, next meeting… oh, that would be the 17th, so we're still in time. But, yeah, we should. 332 00:38:10.600 --> 00:38:12.449 Charlotte Whitt: We should, get it. 333 00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:18.649 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Perhaps we can share a Google Doc, and we can start working together? 334 00:38:18.790 --> 00:38:28.129 Charlotte Whitt: Yeah, and what we could do in a Google Doc could be maybe to post, some of the previous texts. 335 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.440 Charlotte Whitt: Then we have a little inspiration for… . 336 00:38:33.910 --> 00:38:34.530 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Yeah. 337 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.590 Charlotte Whitt: Hmm… yeah. 338 00:38:39.230 --> 00:38:42.729 Kalli Mathios: Our next meeting… this is something I wanted to check. 339 00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:46.470 Kalli Mathios: I have the 24th. It's the second Thursday. 340 00:38:47.050 --> 00:38:54.020 Kalli Mathios: I'm sorry, the second Tuesday, I'm gonna open up the doc so I have it in front of me. 341 00:38:54.860 --> 00:38:56.799 Charlotte Whitt: The third Tuesday. 342 00:38:58.010 --> 00:38:59.299 Kalli Mathios: So it is the 17th? 343 00:38:59.700 --> 00:39:02.340 Charlotte Whitt: No, it's the second Friday and the third Tuesday. 344 00:39:05.430 --> 00:39:13.819 Kalli Mathios: So we meet next on the 17th, actually? Yeah. Okay, darn, I'll update this. I thought we had more time. 345 00:39:14.460 --> 00:39:15.440 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 346 00:39:17.970 --> 00:39:19.780 Kalli Mathios: And I'll update the calendar, too. 347 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:24.429 Kalli Mathios: Okay, great. That's actually better, because it will be fresh in our minds. 348 00:39:25.420 --> 00:39:28.660 Kalli Mathios: Would someone like to volunteer to make the doc, or I can start it? 349 00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:36.960 Charlotte Whitt: I can do that spreadsheet where we simply put in some previous text, and so, yeah, yeah, I can do that for us. 350 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:38.760 Kalli Mathios: Thank you, Charlotte, that's very helpful. 351 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:41.250 Kalli Mathios: Great. 352 00:39:49.240 --> 00:39:54.030 Nancy Lorimer: Well, I'll give you some input, Callie, but I am, of course… I won't… 353 00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:58.769 Nancy Lorimer: be at the meeting on… I might be on the meeting on Tuesday. 354 00:39:58.770 --> 00:40:00.010 Kalli Mathios: Oh, yes. 355 00:40:00.010 --> 00:40:03.010 Nancy Lorimer: I don't… I could be. I could be. We'll see. 356 00:40:03.270 --> 00:40:04.180 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 357 00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:07.769 Nancy Lorimer: My plane is until 5 o'clock in the afternoon, so it's… 358 00:40:07.770 --> 00:40:08.390 Kalli Mathios: Okay. 359 00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.310 Nancy Lorimer: I might be running around a little. 360 00:40:13.310 --> 00:40:16.959 Kalli Mathios: Yeah, we could see if we could find some time. 361 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:18.260 Kalli Mathios: Excellent. 362 00:40:18.930 --> 00:40:19.940 Kalli Mathios: Yep. 363 00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:24.730 Kalli Mathios: Cool. 364 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:35.020 Kalli Mathios: I'm trying to think if there's any other aspects of this conference piece. 365 00:40:39.970 --> 00:40:41.580 Kalli Mathios: I think that sounds good. 366 00:40:47.470 --> 00:40:51.530 Kalli Mathios: Are there any other topics or things… We should discuss today? 367 00:40:56.330 --> 00:40:58.060 Kalli Mathios: Should we end a little early? 368 00:40:59.660 --> 00:41:00.570 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): Yes. 369 00:41:00.570 --> 00:41:05.290 Kalli Mathios: Okay, have a wonderful Friday! 370 00:41:05.720 --> 00:41:06.780 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): You too. 371 00:41:07.140 --> 00:41:07.750 Alvaro Lopez Bustamante: We're… 372 00:41:07.750 --> 00:41:08.759 Nancy Lorimer: End of Friday? 373 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:09.559 Charlotte Whitt: Yes, that's right. 374 00:41:09.560 --> 00:41:10.820 Nancy Lorimer: Good evening to you. 375 00:41:10.820 --> 00:41:14.730 Kalli Mathios: Friday writ large. 376 00:41:17.570 --> 00:41:19.180 Tiziana Possemato (@Cult/Casalini): See you, bye bye! 377 00:41:19.180 --> 00:41:19.890 Charlotte Whitt: Bye. Bye.